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  Stolen babies, unwed mothers
Posted by: Lilith7 - 30-10-2022, 10:24 AM - Forum: News and Current Affairs - Replies (3)

Most of our generation will know, or know of, women coerced into giving up their babies years ago. In those days the choices were to either marry (sometimes known as a shotgun wedding) which sometimes proved to be a disaster but occasionally worked, or to 'go up north for a while' to a home for unmarried mothers to have the baby where they'd be well away from their families & friends so that no one would know about the pregnancy.
Sometimes they worked up till the birth, sometimes not but then they were pressured to give the child up. Some places cruelly refused to allow mums to even see their baby on the grounds it would 'make things easier'.

And now decades later those women are speaking out about their experiences.



https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/1302692...nt-apology

  

[b]Thousands of unwed Kiwi mothers had their babies taken away from them during the post-war decades. Nearing the ends of their lives many are still fighting for a government apology, as Katie Doyle reports.[/b]
Kaaren Svendsen curled up on a hospital bed and sobbed as the cries of her stolen newborn echoed in her head.
SheÔÇÖd been asking nurses where her baby was as she recovered from giving birth.
ÔÇ£I went looking for her. I could hear her crying. I knew that she was the baby that was crying because all the other babies were out with their mothers being fed.
ÔÇ£I went to the door and a nurse chased me away and told me I was not allowed to go in there.ÔÇØ



It was years before Svendsen saw her daughter again. The child was placed for adoption against her wishes ÔÇô a common practise in the post-war decades, when society thought it was improper for a single unwed mother to raise children on her own.

From the late 1940s through to the early 1970s thousands of young women had their children forcibly taken off them under the guise that everyone would be better off for it.
The cruel practise guaranteed a supply of newborn infants for married couples unable to have children; particularly for men who found their fertility impacted by their service in World War II.
The Government has never apologised to the mothers who had their babies taken away and time is running out, with many of them now in their 80s.
Getting pregnant as a teenager was easy during the ÔÇÿbaby scoopÔÇÖ era of the 1950s-1970s, partly because it was illegal to even discuss contraception if you were under the age of 16.
Adoption researcher Dr Anne Else, who is an adoptee herself, says there was a surge in forced adoption when children born during the post-war baby boom reached adolescence and started exploring their sexuality.
ÔÇ£Before World War II illegitimate children would often end up in institutions, and would die at a very high rate,ÔÇØ she says.



Those who did want to try and keep their babies ran up against powerful social forces, with doctors, families and religious institutions working to remove their children.
ÔÇ£The line was, ÔÇÿif you really love your baby, you will give it up for adoption, because it will have a good life with a married couple who will love it and look after itÔÇÖ,ÔÇØ says Else"

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  Idiot Kids, Crime wave
Posted by: Lilith7 - 29-10-2022, 06:21 PM - Forum: News and Current Affairs - Replies (14)

Lately there've been several news items involving younger kids & crimes of various kinds. I came across this article which mentions human brain development - I'd like to think that all those right wing politicians who are virtually brandishing burning brands & shouting about how they'll 'get tough' would read & comprehend, but that seems unlikely.


https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/1302851...Nx67RM8kHY



"There is no one rule of thumb to prevent children from committing crime, a child psychologist says.
This week, Stuff revealed out-of-control, thrill-seeking youths have propelled car thefts in Canterbury to record highs, with reports of some deliberately knocking cyclists off their bikes and seriously injuring them.
More than 400 vehicles were reported stolen across the district in August ÔÇô about twice what was considered normal a few years ago. The city has also been plagued with youth crime in recent weeks.
Risk-taking behaviour, especially by children, comes from wanting to find something theyÔÇÖre good at, belonging to a group and receiving praise from others, senior clinical psychologist Dr Kirsty Ross said.
ÔÇ£The feeling of competency with something is crucial. A lot of kids get that from sport, arts, music or academics, but thatÔÇÖs not always the case.ÔÇØ



Children could be guided in the right direction, but sometimes they could have all the right support and still fall into anti-social behaviour, Ross said.
ÔÇ£At 10, we are still so egocentric: ÔÇÿPeople are going to think IÔÇÖm cool, and IÔÇÖll get lots of likes on TikTok.ÔÇÖ



Thinking ahead, considering consequences and having perspective for victims could be difficult to consider for developing brains, she said.
ÔÇ£ÔÇÿIf I steal this car, how will this mother get her kids to school in the morning?ÔÇÖ ÔÇô thatÔÇÖs not in the frame of thinking for these kids.ÔÇØ
Emotionally-driven validation drives young minds, Ross said.
ÔÇ£It feels exciting and gives me an adrenaline rush, so IÔÇÖll do it."

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  Who here collects antique bottles?
Posted by: nzoomed - 28-10-2022, 11:14 AM - Forum: Bottles - Replies (3)

I inherited my grandfathers collection when he passed away. Has been a fun hobby but never really got into any real digging for them like he did.
Most of my collection is now stuff ive acquired on trademe over the years.

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  Renewed protesting in Iran
Posted by: Lilith7 - 27-10-2022, 02:40 PM - Forum: Opinion and Politics - Replies (2)

Police there have fired on mourners, 40 days after the death of Mahsa Amini. 



https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-63397159


Iranian police are reported to have fired on protesters in Saqqez, home city of Mahsa Amini who died in custody after being arrested for allegedly wearing her hijab "improperly".
Thousands gathered near the grave of the Kurdish woman and clashed with security, 40 days since her death.
A rights group and witnesses said officers fired live rounds and tear gas at the crowds in the city.




On Wednesday, security forces were deployed in Saqqez and other parts of Kurdistan province, in anticipation of fresh demonstrations on the 40th day of mourning for Ms Amini - a culturally significant occasion for Iranians.

Videos showed thousands of mourners walking along a road, through a field and across a river to bypass roadblocks and reach the graveyard where Ms Amini is buried.

The crowds were heard shouting "Woman, life, freedom" and "Death to the dictator" - two of the signature chants of the protest movement - as well as "Down with traitors" and "Kurdistan will be the graveyard of fascists".

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  Fair payment to be scrapped if National get in
Posted by: Lilith7 - 27-10-2022, 11:12 AM - Forum: Opinion and Politics - Replies (29)

National says it would immediately scrap the fair pay agreement & several other things, if it becomes the next govt. They just may be shooting themselves in the foot by doing so; there are after all, quite a lot of workers who will benefit from this, & so it smacks of not wanting to give working people a fair go.


And really, their claiming that its 'socialism' reminded me of this: 


ÔÇ£Socialism is a scare word they have hurled at every advance the people have made in the last 20 years.

 
Socialism is what they called public power. Socialism is what they called social security.
 
Socialism is what they called farm price supports.
 
Socialism is what they called bank deposit insurance.
 
Socialism is what they called the growth of free and independent labor organizations.
 
Socialism is their name for almost anything that helps all the people.ÔÇØ

Harry S Truman





https://www.odt.co.nz/star-news/star-nat...ted-debate


"Workplace Relations Minister Michael Wood said the bill was a step towards reversing the "radical deregulation of the labour market" 30 years ago when a then-National government stripped back collective worker rights through the Employment Contracts Act.
At the time National MPs claimed productivity and wages would improve, which Wood said had not eventuated.
"The promises that they made in that funk of deregulation, that they still live in a fever dream of, were proven to be false."

Wood said the legislation was about supporting the most vulnerable workers, including the essential workers who'd "kept us safe through Covid-19".
It would stop a "race to the bottom", where lacking adequate regulation employers were inclined to drive wages and conditions down to stay competitive.
Wood, as with other Labour MPs, also paid tribute to the late union leader Helen Kelly, saying the law invoked her "most important values and contributions".
"That was the value that we are better off when we are together when we bring everyone to the table, including working people."




Acting Prime Minister Grant Robertson said the 1991 changes and reduction in wages were "not by accident, but by design".

"Today we turn that around," he said, to loud cheers from the Labour caucus.

Robertson said it was not a bad law for good employers, who would no longer be forced to drive their wages and worker conditions down to stay competitive.

"This is a day for employers to celebrate just as much as employees."









https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politic...-and-scrap

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  Iran and the rich list influencers
Posted by: Oh_hunnihunni - 26-10-2022, 08:28 AM - Forum: General Discussion - Replies (20)

A couple of wealthy young folk decide to travel the world while building profiles as social media influencers and get taken hostage in the Middle East.

Am I jaded or something when I react by thinking what the fuck were they thinking?

Muttering 'get a real job' might be too harsh perhaps...

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  Pfizer controlling the media
Posted by: C_T_Russell - 25-10-2022, 11:29 PM - Forum: Opinion and Politics - Replies (5)

You wont hear anything negative about them when they are the ones sponsoring the news will you?
Massive conflict of interest!

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  New UK PM
Posted by: Lilith7 - 25-10-2022, 02:28 PM - Forum: Opinion and Politics - Replies (10)

Rishi Sunak is apparently very wealthy, or according to the article, "super rich". 

I wonder whether someone living on the streets & constantly in danger of imminent starvation might be said to be "super poor?" Dodgy

I really can't help thinking that no one who is so very wealthy should be in a position of power over others; how can anyone with such vast wealth have any inkling of the day to day reality for most of those they're supposed to be representing?


https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/uk/3007200...ng-charles

"Earlier this year, Sunak's wife was at the centre of a tax scandal after it emerged that she had been filing in the United Kingdom as a "non-domiciled" resident, which allowed her to avoid paying British taxes on the substantial income she earned abroad.



It also came out around the same time that Sunak had held a US green card while he was chancellor of the Exchequer, or finance minister. He spokesman said he returned it last year. He was also attacked for giving a speech to grass-roots Conservative Party members this summer where he said that, as chancellor, he tried to reverse funding formulas "that shoved all the funding into deprived urban areas" so as to help wealthier towns.


He has consistently polled better than any of his contenders in this leadership race on economic competence. In the last race against Liz Truss, Sunak said that Truss's plans were based on "fantasy" economics - a pronouncement that proved prescient when her "mini-budget" caused widespread turmoil in the markets.


Fielding also said that Truss's disastrous economic policy, which saw the market swiftly reject her plans for unfunded tax cuts, meant that the next leader's policies will "basically be a prisoner of Liz Truss and the consequences of Liz Truss."
"Whoever becomes leader, they have two years where their economic programme is already decided. It's going to be pretty bad for the British public," he added, noting that it will mostly be damage control and balancing between taxes and spending.
"It's still different colours of bad," he said."

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  Should I mention this in feedback?
Posted by: Olive - 23-10-2022, 06:04 PM - Forum: Trademe Discussion - Replies (7)

I sold an item by having my counteroffer accepted.   Immediately the buyer emailed asking to reduce the price by $10.  I rejected the request, then he emailed saying he would give me "snacks and a beer" if i reduced the price.  I said no.   He then said he would pay in cash rather than by the direct credit stipulated in the listing.   I agreed, and we arranged delivery.   When I turned up to deliver the item (to uninhabited industrial premises) the buyer was there, and also some kind of "minder", who slunk around in the background, smoking and staring at me.   It felt intimidating and scary.   The  buyer seemed quite shy, and the exchange of cash for the item was fine, but the overall experience was unsettling and unpleasant.  

I'm wondering if I should mention this in my feedback.   In the end I got the price I wanted, but I feel somehow that his attitude cut against the unspoken TM rules of trust and decent behaviour.

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  Another Ode, to Baron Luxon
Posted by: Lilith7 - 23-10-2022, 06:01 PM - Forum: Opinion and Politics - No Replies

Big Grin Big Grin Rolleyes

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/an-ode-for-ba...1666462712

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