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JACINDA ARDERN - A TSUNAMI OF CHANGES IS COMING 
Hi to all concerned New Zealanders,
Has Jacinda Ardern become a puppet to the tribal elite? After the opening paragraphs we list some facts from the Government's He Puapua 2040 plan! By deliberately concealing the He Puapua agenda for tribal co-governance from voters during the election campaign, Jacinda Ardern has knowingly orchestrated an illegitimate abuse of power. As a result of the rollout of this illegitimate agenda, a cultural takeover of New ZealandÔÇÖs most fundamental social and constitutional values is underway.
Our established democratic order is being swept aside by an incoming tide of race-based tyranny. Following is but a sample ÔÇô remember these are taken from the GovernmentÔÇÖs own plan. Some parts have already been enacted.
1. A SEPARATE MAORI HEALTH AUTHORITY;
o          Funded by the Taxpayer.
o          With veto rights over the entire health system
o          Maori patients are now being prioritised over non-Maori.
2. DEPT OF CONSERVATION LAND:
o        Government documents have now emerged showing a plan to transfer the ownership and control of the  entire Conservation Estate to Tribal Authorities
o┬á ┬á ┬á ┬á The Dept of Conservation has now formed an ÔÇ£Options, Development GroupÔÇØ (ODG).┬á This group has made a recommendation to give control and governance of DOC to Maori.
3. LAND & BUSINESS:
o          Exempting Maori land from the requirement to pay rates.
o          Iwi businesses now worth several billion dollars do not pay taxes.
o          Taxpayer funding to upgrade maraes.
4. EDUCATION:
o          Rewriting the history of this country to suit a Maori agenda in the Education curriculum. The rewritten curriculum shows pre and post European Maori to be a different person than what was observed and recorded by early Europeans.
5. LOCAL GOVERNMENT:
o          The abolition of the right of local communities to hold a binding referendum on Maori Ward Seats on Councils
o          Local Government Minister Mahuta is now undertaking a review and it appears likely to lead that 50% of Council seats will be held by Maori.
6. GOVERNANCE:
o  Two complete Governments that overlap.
o  A new written Constitution based on a new interpretation of the Treaty of Waitangi.
o  At least five per cent of all Govt procurement contracts must now go to Maori businesses. All government departments/agencies must now provide a report that shows at least five per cent of the procurement for goods and services was from Maori businesses.
7. JUSTICE
o  A Maori Court system, where offenders with a Maori ancestor will be treated differently from other offenders.
o  Maori Jails, where inmates with a Maori ancestor will be treated differently to other inmates.
o┬á Western Common Law being replaced by Maori ÔÇ£tikangaÔÇØ (Maori customary & practices). See Justice ChurchmanÔÇÖs Decision May 2021
o  Where people of Maori ancestry will have greater legal rights
8. WATER
o  Granting Maori rights to ALL fresh water
o  Giving Maori access to funding for their legal costs to claim the Seabed & Foreshore, from mean high tide out to 12 nautical miles.
o  Opponents to Maori claims must fund their own legal costs.
9. MEDIA:
o  Maori language and culture are now being forced into Government Departments, Local Authorities, and state funded media.
o┬á The guidelines for the media in the governmentÔÇÖs latest funding of $55 million dollars to them, now prevents an opposing point of view to the governmentÔÇÖs race-based program being aired.
THE ABOVE IS JUST A SAMPLE OF WHAT IS IN THE HE PUAPUA 2040 PLAN.
New Zealanders across the land are being falsely accused by radical separatists of racism and discrimination against Maori when they question what is the He Puapua plan about.
ÔÇ£If we are to salvage our democracy, we have no option but to get out of our comfort zones and engage in protest by means that may not come easily to us.ÔÇØ
Spread the word. Do not be afraid of being called a racist. Speak out. We want equality. We need to stand up and fight this plan.


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#2
did you write this up or is it a copy and paste from somewhere?

Some of it I personally don't have a problem with - Maori representation in jail for example is disproportionately higher than Caucasians - clearly something needs to change for better outcomes. Same logic for health and Education...

It kind does read like (in tone) a conspiracy theorist manifesto, which is likely to get the boot pretty quickly around here... and yes mildly racist as well...

How about providing some links/ references to the more dubious claims for starters eg Maori having a separate government...

and I would be curious as to why you think funding marae upgrades is a bad thing, as against anything else governments fund...
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Ok, apparently HE PUAPUA is just a discussion document. To put everyone's mind at ease Smile , no "TSUNAMI OF CHANGES" is actually coming...

A slightly more balanced viewpoint of HE PUAPUA is here
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/explain...-explained
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#4
Awww gee, more rubbish from some guy who feels threatened by change?
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#5
(31-03-2022, 09:49 PM)king1 Wrote: Ok, apparently HE PUAPUA is just a discussion document.  To put everyone's mind at ease Smile , no "TSUNAMI OF CHANGES" is actually coming...

A slightly more balanced viewpoint of HE PUAPUA is here
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/explain...-explained
Stuff is hardly balanced in these matters.  Part of them accepting any support funds from the Government was a requirement to embrace the principals of the Treaty and so they would be unlikely to speak out against This document.

However as a "discussion" document there are several things that have already been implemented or about to be implemented.
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(01-04-2022, 05:56 AM)Wainuiguy Wrote:
(31-03-2022, 09:49 PM)king1 Wrote: Ok, apparently HE PUAPUA is just a discussion document.  To put everyone's mind at ease Smile , no "TSUNAMI OF CHANGES" is actually coming...

A slightly more balanced viewpoint of HE PUAPUA is here
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/explain...-explained
Stuff is hardly balanced in these matters.  Part of them accepting any support funds from the Government was a requirement to embrace the principals of the Treaty and so they would be unlikely to speak out against This document.

However as a "discussion" document there are several things that have already been implemented or about to be implemented.
 dual governance has been ruled out apparently - conveniently not mentioned above. and as I mentioned earlier, there are good reasons to implement, or at least consider, some of the ideas...

Why would you think that the results of what was essentially a spitballing session, is going to be implemented in its entirety?

It's just fear mongering - but feel free to provide a link to a more balanced analysis of it?
  
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#7
he pua pua loosely translates as 'i beg your pardon'
So if you disappear out of view You know I will never say goodbye
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#8
(01-04-2022, 07:36 AM)king1 Wrote:
(01-04-2022, 05:56 AM)Wainuiguy Wrote: Stuff is hardly balanced in these matters.  Part of them accepting any support funds from the Government was a requirement to embrace the principals of the Treaty and so they would be unlikely to speak out against This document.

However as a "discussion" document there are several things that have already been implemented or about to be implemented.
 dual governance has been ruled out apparently - conveniently not mentioned above. and as I mentioned earlier, there are good reasons to implement, or at least consider, some of the ideas...

Why would you think that the results of what was essentially a spitballing session, is going to be implemented in its entirety?

It's just fear mongering - but feel free to provide a link to a more balanced analysis of it?
  
Because some of that "spitballing" is being implemented.  All of a sudden it doesn't look like spitballing.  Also the report was very quietly buried until a journalist dug it up.  The government say this was because we poor taxpayers and voters might have gotten confused - we evidently arent too bright in their eyes.  Of course the fact they have taken several aspects of this report and made it policy may have muddied the waters a bit.  Because now the "discussion paper" IS starting to look like government policy.   Policy that they did not campaign on.
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#9
Sheesh.

They didn't campaign on covid either.

Off with their heads, bring back Trump.
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#10
Quote:wainui

Policy that they did not campaign on.
they dont care, not the labour party nor their acolytes on this board.

they never did anything they did campaigned on, so doing something they didnt campaign on is hardly news
if theyd thought of it they would have promised last time, and today it would remain incomplete and on the rocks.

they proved last time out they will say anything, anything, to get into power.
no matter how ludicrous, impossible or grandiose their plan, and this time it will have to be a doozy,
they know that once in power, watery excuses and feeble governance is enough to get by.

it worked last time.
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(01-04-2022, 09:31 AM)Wainuiguy Wrote:
(01-04-2022, 07:36 AM)king1 Wrote:  dual governance has been ruled out apparently - conveniently not mentioned above. and as I mentioned earlier, there are good reasons to implement, or at least consider, some of the ideas...

Why would you think that the results of what was essentially a spitballing session, is going to be implemented in its entirety?

It's just fear mongering - but feel free to provide a link to a more balanced analysis of it?
  
Because some of that "spitballing" is being implemented.  All of a sudden it doesn't look like spitballing.  Also the report was very quietly buried until a journalist dug it up.  The government say this was because we poor taxpayers and voters might have gotten confused - we evidently arent too bright in their eyes.  Of course the fact they have taken several aspects of this report and made it policy may have muddied the waters a bit.  Because now the "discussion paper" IS starting to look like government policy.   Policy that they did not campaign on. 
yep just a big old CT.  It is true that there are some members of NZ society that " arent too bright " and will pick up on anything the government does and twist it around into a big ol' conspiracy... We saw that a month or two ago...  No doubt this will bring out some more, or the same ones...

It really is not surprising that some stuff is being implemented (perhaps you could enlighten me what) as there appear to be some good ideas in there...  But the authors themselves have suggested the
purpose was to just develop ideas and a possible timeline, but knowing that some of it may be difficult or impossible to implement,  Governments of all forms do this all the time, it is simply evaluating all possible scenarios, but nothing is set in stone.  Don't know what all the hu ha is about...

 Not sure it really matters that they never campaigned on it, with such a long timeframe there is plenty of time for discussion...
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#12
and im not anti labour, im anti lies.
labour did an outstanding job with covid, full marks.
national couldnt have pulled it off.

labour party need to stop treating the public like idiots.
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(01-04-2022, 04:40 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Awww gee, more rubbish from some guy who feels threatened by change?
There's a lot of it about. Humans really don't like change to a large extent - but life is change.
in order to be old & wise, you must first be young & stupid. (I'm still working on that.)
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(01-04-2022, 10:32 AM)Magoo Wrote: and im not anti labour, im anti lies.
labour did an outstanding job with covid, full marks.
national couldnt have pulled it off.

labour party need to stop treating the public like idiots.
lol, so if Labour lied their way into government, we will find out at the next election if the public really are idiots , if/when labour get re-elected... 

Assuming that is the case then we will all have to admit we are all idiots, or acknowledge that maybe labour are doing an OK job...

It will be interesting, and certainly not the cakewalk Labour have had in the last couple of elections...
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#15
If critics of the current (whichever whenever) government put as much energy into actual political activity instead of just armchair whinging we would all be better lead...
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(01-04-2022, 10:45 AM)king1 Wrote:
(01-04-2022, 10:32 AM)Magoo Wrote: and im not anti labour, im anti lies.
labour did an outstanding job with covid, full marks.
national couldnt have pulled it off.

labour party need to stop treating the public like idiots.
lol, so if Labour lied their way into government, we will find out at the next election if the public really are idiots , if/when labour get re-elected... 

Assuming that is the case then we will all have to admit we are all idiots, or acknowledge that maybe labour are doing an OK job...

It will be interesting, and certainly not the cakewalk Labour have had in the last couple of elections...
yes.

yes.

yes.
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#17
(01-04-2022, 10:45 AM)king1 Wrote:
(01-04-2022, 10:32 AM)Magoo Wrote: and im not anti labour, im anti lies.
labour did an outstanding job with covid, full marks.
national couldnt have pulled it off.

labour party need to stop treating the public like idiots.
lol, so if Labour lied their way into government, we will find out at the next election if the public really are idiots , if/when labour get re-elected... 

Assuming that is the case then we will all have to admit we are all idiots, or acknowledge that maybe labour are doing an OK job...

It will be interesting, and certainly not the cakewalk Labour have had in the last couple of elections...
Labour had a cakewalk in 2020 not in 2017.  The 2017 election election was lost, in the end, by 1 vote.
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#18
32 councils dont think 3waters is is a good idea & are vehemently against it . They see it as taking away something they &their ratepayers paid for . The PM hasnt ruled out IWI getting royalties from it either . So much of it is unclear Idout it will proceed with so many councils against it
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(01-04-2022, 10:21 AM)king1 Wrote:
(01-04-2022, 09:31 AM)Wainuiguy Wrote: Because some of that "spitballing" is being implemented.  All of a sudden it doesn't look like spitballing.  Also the report was very quietly buried until a journalist dug it up.  The government say this was because we poor taxpayers and voters might have gotten confused - we evidently arent too bright in their eyes.  Of course the fact they have taken several aspects of this report and made it policy may have muddied the waters a bit.  Because now the "discussion paper" IS starting to look like government policy.   Policy that they did not campaign on. 
yep just a big old CT.  It is true that there are some members of NZ society that " arent too bright " and will pick up on anything the government does and twist it around into a big ol' conspiracy... We saw that a month or two ago...  No doubt this will bring out some more, or the same ones...

It really is not surprising that some stuff is being implemented (perhaps you could enlighten me what) as there appear to be some good ideas in there...  But the authors themselves have suggested the
purpose was to just develop ideas and a possible timeline, but knowing that some of it may be difficult or impossible to implement,  Governments of all forms do this all the time, it is simply evaluating all possible scenarios, but nothing is set in stone.  Don't know what all the hu ha is about...

 Not sure it really matters that they never campaigned on it, with such a long timeframe there is plenty of time for discussion...
It is easy to label it a CT but there are things being implemented.   The pushing through of Maori seats on councils and the removal of their right to ask ratepayers if it is wanted, the reorganization of the health system where Māori will have veto power over all the system,  then 3 waters specifically payment of water rights to iwi.  And now the government saying they will "consult " on co-governance.  Wonder if that is the same way they consulted on 3 waters?
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#20
Google how big the Maori population actually is, and then ponder how much of a threat to the average middle aged white guy they are. Heavens, a bit of shared governance over the important bits of this nation would be good for all of us. Especially considering how much that average white guy has benefited from the theft from and dominance of that tangata whenua population over the decades.

Talk about dog in the manger...
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