(19-08-2023, 12:39 PM)C_T_Russell Wrote: Have you seen the footage from the "insurrection" that shows the security lead the protesters into the building?I can see this thread gravitating into an analysis of the 'rights' of US citizens but as we're actually discussing the likelihood of Trump becoming elected to the position of preseident despite having numerous serious court proceedings pending and potentially even being incarcerated I really have difficultly understanding the logic of the US legal system.
https://www.nypost.com/2023/03/06/jan-6-...ate-floor/
Trump indicted
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(19-08-2023, 12:39 PM)C_T_Russell Wrote: Have you seen the footage from the "insurrection" that shows the security lead the protesters into the building? that seems to show one individual being escorted around the building by security, which is probably better than leaving him on his own. This world would be a perfect place if it wasn't for the people.
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19-08-2023, 02:51 PM
(19-08-2023, 01:56 PM)king1 Wrote:(19-08-2023, 12:39 PM)C_T_Russell Wrote: Have you seen the footage from the "insurrection" that shows the security lead the protesters into the building? Yes, but the dialog between both of them seemed rather peaceful to be honest. Anyway Trump never arranged that whole thing at all.
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19-08-2023, 02:53 PM
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(19-08-2023, 01:56 PM)king1 Wrote:Pretty much my take on it too. As stated the QAnon guy was unarmed so couldn't be contrued as a threat that needed to be neutralised so as a US citizen he was probably entitled to visit a public venue and the security escorted him while he did so.(19-08-2023, 12:39 PM)C_T_Russell Wrote: Have you seen the footage from the "insurrection" that shows the security lead the protesters into the building? It was the crazy shit he embarked on following his 'guided tour' that got him locked up.
19-08-2023, 02:59 PM
(19-08-2023, 02:53 PM)harm_less Wrote:(19-08-2023, 01:56 PM)king1 Wrote: that seems to show one individual being escorted around the building by security, which is probably better than leaving him on his own.Pretty much my take on it too. As stated the QAnon guy was unarmed so couldn't be contrued as a threat that needed to be neutralised so as a US citizen he was probably entitled to visit a public venue and the security escorted him while he did so. From what I can tell is he was the one who took the whole brunt of it and was at the wrong place at the wrong time. I don't even think he was into all that Qanon BS.
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19-08-2023, 03:01 PM
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(19-08-2023, 02:59 PM)C_T_Russell Wrote:So that get up he was wearing was normal street wear for him? Okaaaaaaaaay!(19-08-2023, 02:53 PM)harm_less Wrote: Pretty much my take on it too. As stated the QAnon guy was unarmed so couldn't be contrued as a threat that needed to be neutralised so as a US citizen he was probably entitled to visit a public venue and the security escorted him while he did so. Google seems to claim otherwise: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Chansley
19-08-2023, 05:19 PM
(19-08-2023, 03:01 PM)harm_less Wrote:(19-08-2023, 02:59 PM)C_T_Russell Wrote: From what I can tell is he was the one who took the whole brunt of it and was at the wrong place at the wrong time.So that get up he was wearing was normal street wear for him? Okaaaaaaaaay! Far from normal, but its not like its anything offensive, just a coonskin cap with horns, sure the guy might seem a bit odd, but seemed harmless, as you said  he had no weapons on him. Question needs to be was really who organized the riots. I know for a fact that groups were already sent in by the bus load organized by ANTIFA.
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19-08-2023, 06:40 PM
Well' I'm Marie of Romania.
BUT No Trumps always beats One Tump in an honest game. Entropy is not what
it used to be.
(19-08-2023, 05:19 PM)C_T_Russell Wrote:There was a certain orange twat who seems to now be getting a good part of the blame on that front.(19-08-2023, 03:01 PM)harm_less Wrote: So that get up he was wearing was normal street wear for him? Okaaaaaaaaay!
19-08-2023, 08:00 PM
(19-08-2023, 02:59 PM)C_T_Russell Wrote:I still wouldn't buy a used car off him, or his companions.(19-08-2023, 02:53 PM)harm_less Wrote: Pretty much my take on it too. As stated the QAnon guy was unarmed so couldn't be contrued as a threat that needed to be neutralised so as a US citizen he was probably entitled to visit a public venue and the security escorted him while he did so. ![]() Entropy is not what
it used to be.
20-08-2023, 09:51 AM
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It would appear that Trump may be prohibited from regaining presidency under the wording of the US's 14th Amendment. We can only hope the US legislature have the spine to uphold their own laws.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archiv...cy/675048/ "This protection, embodied in the amendmentÔÇÖs often-overlooked Section 3 [of the Fourteenth Amendment], automatically excludes from future office and position of power in the United States governmentÔÇöand also from any equivalent office and position of power in the sovereign states and their subdivisionsÔÇöany person who has taken an oath to support and defend our Constitution and thereafter rebels against that sacred charter, either through overt insurrection or by giving aid or comfort to the ConstitutionÔÇÖs enemies."
21-08-2023, 12:30 PM
(18-08-2023, 11:08 PM)C_T_Russell Wrote: Trump will be vindicated all these accusations made against him are just miserable efforts to find any dirt they can on him in an attempt to derail his 2024 campaign. Would you like me to send you links to 200 videos showing what an absolute arsewipe he is? Really, he's just a pile if smelly shite! Gosh I wish I could stop being nice about him and really say what I think about him/ ![]() ![]()
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22-08-2023, 09:11 PM
I had forgotten this, Trump in full flow:
"Look, having nuclear ÔÇö my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart ÔÇö you know, if youÔÇÖre a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world ÔÇö itÔÇÖs true! ÔÇö but when you're a conservative Republican they try ÔÇö oh, do they do a number ÔÇö thatÔÇÖs why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune ÔÇö you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because weÔÇÖre a little disadvantaged ÔÇö but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me ÔÇö it would have been so easy, and itÔÇÖs not as important as these lives are ÔÇö nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? ÔÇö but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners ÔÇö now it used to be three, now itÔÇÖs four ÔÇö but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they havenÔÇÖt figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, itÔÇÖs gonna take them about another 150 years ÔÇö but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible." Donald Trump
It's not the least charm of a theory that it is refutable. The hundred-times-refuted theory of "free will" owes its persistence to this charm alone; some one is always appearing who feels himself strong enough to refute it - Friedrich Nietzsche
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22-08-2023, 09:41 PM
I read Mary Trump's book. It was enlightening, and explains a lot.
23-08-2023, 11:05 AM
He just seems to open his mouth & out it comes - A grade bollocks.
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25-08-2023, 03:53 PM
(23-08-2023, 11:05 AM)Lilith7 Wrote: He just seems to open his mouth & out it comes - A grade bollocks. Just seen the mugshot... He certainly won't get any time off for showing remorse  ![]() ![]() ![]()
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25-08-2023, 04:25 PM
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(25-08-2023, 03:53 PM)Kenj Wrote:(23-08-2023, 11:05 AM)Lilith7 Wrote: He just seems to open his mouth & out it comes - A grade bollocks. The poor chap is being picked on, it's not really his fault. I believe he suffers from twisted valves - his throat  and rectum somehow swapped delivery functions. This is why he always wipes his lips with a tissue after he speaks, just stay well clear if he sneezes . . . . No matter, Chinese students say he's done more to assist the rise of China than any other person since Chairman Mao. ![]() Entropy is not what
it used to be.
Mugshots of the defendants
It's not the least charm of a theory that it is refutable. The hundred-times-refuted theory of "free will" owes its persistence to this charm alone; some one is always appearing who feels himself strong enough to refute it - Friedrich Nietzsche
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