The government line is that being vaccinated keeps you out of hospital and makes you contagious for a shorter length of time.
But I don't trust this government. There's so many conflicting stories going around.
I've heard of people dying shortly after receiving the vaccine. Young and middle aged healthy people. But they don't show on the government websites (CARM?). I also read that the government is not updating it's website.
OK, so I just checked here https://www.medsafe.govt.nz/COVID-19/saf...ort-33.asp
This is the part that they do not seem to be updating:
40 of these deaths are unlikely related to the COVID-19 vaccine
38 deaths could not be assessed due to insufficient information
15 cases are still under investigation.
1 death was likely due to vaccine induced myocarditis (awaiting CoronerÔÇÖs determination)
The numbers have remained like that for months.
Also note they admit 1 death but if you added the 38 that could not be assessed you get a possible 39, plus the other 40 are only not likely (in their opinion) but in each case someone saw a link or they would not have filed a report.
But I don't trust this government. There's so many conflicting stories going around.
I've heard of people dying shortly after receiving the vaccine. Young and middle aged healthy people. But they don't show on the government websites (CARM?). I also read that the government is not updating it's website.
OK, so I just checked here https://www.medsafe.govt.nz/COVID-19/saf...ort-33.asp
This is the part that they do not seem to be updating:
40 of these deaths are unlikely related to the COVID-19 vaccine
38 deaths could not be assessed due to insufficient information
15 cases are still under investigation.
1 death was likely due to vaccine induced myocarditis (awaiting CoronerÔÇÖs determination)
The numbers have remained like that for months.
Also note they admit 1 death but if you added the 38 that could not be assessed you get a possible 39, plus the other 40 are only not likely (in their opinion) but in each case someone saw a link or they would not have filed a report.
(31-10-2021, 11:47 AM)king1 Wrote: I'm no expert but I do think the science is very clear on this matter, and the hospitalisation rates of unvaccinated vs vaccinated speaks volumes...I object to being told what to do. For that reason and because of the possible side effects/death I am not vaccinated. I do however wear a mask, contact trace and limit group size. If I needed to self isolate I would but I have not been sick. At all.
These days, now that the majority of sensible people are already, or on their way to being, fully vaccinated, the remaining unvaccinated are either the young, those with health reasons, or dare I say it the less sensible members of society who tend to be in denial of the risks and/or object to being told what to do.  As such they can't be trusted to do the right thing when required ie mask up, limit groups, self isolate when required etc  IMHO the unvaccinated people themselves and their decision making is where the real increased risk lies...
Just my two cents...
(31-10-2021, 11:35 PM)crafters_corner Wrote: ...It does seem to be getting out of control in the sense of legislation. I.e the levels getting ammended. Traffic light system. How to handle travel over the Christmas break, i.e how to stop unvaccinated from traveling. They can't stop everyone to check their status. The roads are already jam-packed over Christmas.
It feels a little like it's starting to get a bit out of control, and we arn't moving fast enough.
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