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57% of kiwis want unvaxxed nurses to return...
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(14-07-2022, 08:50 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: What a load of twaddle.

Consider this - the percentage of kiwis now vaccinated is around mid 90%. Why would half of those accept unvaccinated health workers let alone 'want' them? It is simply illogical.

Secondly, we are now entering a very dangerous phase of the pandemic. Again, why would anyone with half an ounce of commonsense 'want' unvaccinated health workers?

https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coron...w-zealand/

Unless of course such people have a very unusual agenda? Like encouraging mass death...

Yes very dangerous indeed, people dropping like flies...

Please tell me how many unvaxxed have died "with" covid vs fully vaxxed?
Perhaps the OIA can get us that data.

Is it fair to force jabs on to these nurses who clearly dont want any more jabs after suffering side effects?

Whats wrong with RAT testing everyone before coming in to work? Wouldnt that be more effective, since both vaxxed and unvaxxed can still spread it?

The vaccine does jack shit to protect anyone, i know many people where they spread it to their whole household, and all were fully vaxxed, it obviously did nothing.

When will everybody wake up and realise the cold hard truth that the virus has evaded the immunity that the vaccine provided long ago.
Thats the whole point of natural selection isint it? Viruses evolve rapidly.

Still waiting for that updated pfizer shot.
I think Moderna have a revised one now, but we dont have that yet in NZ,but at best its only going to give you an omicron immune response anyway.


(14-07-2022, 09:57 AM)SueDonim Wrote:
(14-07-2022, 09:03 AM)king1 Wrote: Well assuming it is these folks
https://yabblezone.com/

then I would think it is safe to assume the sample population can't be random... 

for one it will exclude non techo folks, less likely to blindly follow conspiracies, more likely to follow the government health advice.


Thanks for the link. I agree.
I had a recent email customer survey from what was portrayed as a legitimate company that I deal with but decided that no way was I going to click on a link in an email that was called "Yabble" and hit delete instead. Even accepting the trend for "modern" (ie silly) names and the fact that it must be hard to come up with something original, I'm afraid "Yabble" just doesn't do it for me.

Regarding the issue of nurse vaccination, the baseline for nursing is evidence-based practice. Those nurses who refused to get vaccinated have shown their disregard for evidence, or their inability to understand it. Either way, the health sector is safer without them. Think of the ramifications if we had even more transmission from or within the health workforce. When nurses become patients and take up bed space needed by their patients. No, sorry, I disagree that we should allow unvaccinated healthcare workers. And I don't accept that a dodgy survey among laymen should influence the decision-making.

CT, we've been over this multiple times and you still come up with the same misunderstanding that you demonstrated at the start. Please read some evidence and forget the general internet crap that you are looking at. It is misinformation. It is disinformation. It is wrong. The actual research and evidence moves so fast that even the experts* struggle to keep up with the impacts of the new variants and the implications of the consequent new understanding of how viruses work. How do you expect the average fringe internet site to know more?

*ie the real experts who did a decade of advanced education followed by a lifetime's work in their specialty. Those who understand how the body works and the impacts of viruses, disease and immunisation. Those who DO know as much as can be known  in an ever-changing world.

If a nurse has caught covid, whether previously vaxxed or not, they have better immunity than anyone who has received any form of vaccine or booster.

Thats fact, its pure basic science. A natural immune response to omicron or any of its subvariants is hands down a million times better than an immune response from a vaccine designed for the alpha strain, period.

You still are not considering the nurses who had their jabs but dont want boosters after suffering side effects, they are still forced to have another shot and David Seymour also agrees.
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RE: 57% of kiwis want unvaxxed nurses to return... - by C_T_Russell - 18-07-2022, 01:09 PM

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