02-06-2022, 10:48 AM
(01-06-2022, 04:04 PM)SueDonim Wrote:There definitely needs to be a more honest and transparent way of recording deaths.(01-06-2022, 12:37 AM)C_T_Russell Wrote: One of those covid "deaths" was from someone that was shot, only later to have found to have tested positive for covid during the autopsy.
The deaths and medical incidents on the sports field I was referring to was heart related, possibly myocarditis or vaccine related injury that was not previously identified.
I have 2 friends who are vaccine injured and have terrible effects from the vaccine.
Its quite common.
Some time ago we standardised the counting to follow other countries so that data provides a proper comparison. Like all data there are multiple ways of counting and interpreting numbers so the standardisation was important. It would be good though to be told how many people died with covid as the only or the primary cause of death.
Regarding your dig at vaccine injury, we've been over and over that and that's where you topple into CT territory. Yes, there are some vaccine injuries. But there are far far far more injuries in the people who actually get covid, especially when they are unvaccinated. The vaccine protects from a lot of that. And just because they didn't make the statistics we see every day doesn't mean it doesn't happen. There's long covid, there are autoimmune issues, there's ongoing heart disease. And so it goes.
But the govt is basically following WHO guidelines, so we should be asking them the reason why.
Car accidents, murders and cancer deaths dont count as covid deaths.
Ive got a few friends double or triple jabbed, one who has had covid really bad, was sick for weeks and another who is still suffering with long covid.
My doctor gave me a long rant about getting the vaccine and told me I would get "long covid" if i didnt get the jab.
Glad I didnt take her advice, our whole family got covid at once a good 3 months ago and was no worse than the flu, my father in his 70's had the least severe symptoms out of all of us.
I know plenty who are unvaxxed with covid and none have had serious symptoms, they all say it was no different than a cold or flu.
Of course many will just say that this is anecdotal, but I think it warrants more study.
Experts will just say that these people would have been alot sicker if they didnt have the jab, so you cant win. And since most of NZ is jabbed, we wont really get accurate data anymore.
What is the biggest laugh is they are still telling people to get another "booster" after having covid but wait at least 3 months before having it lol.
How dumb can anyone be? If the 1st, 2nd or 3rd shot didnt stop you getting covid, then what is the point of even bothering with another shot? You have already gained natural immunity by this stage anyway. The updated omicron booster isint even available yet and the virus has already mutated since then into even more variants, so its completley pointless.