NZ covid deaths are getting up there

[SueDonim]

Maybe you should relisten to the Sean Plunket/Michael Baker interview you posted, particularly Michael's comments regarding "excess deaths". Those deaths that vary from the expected average will include not only COVID mortality but also all these "people dropping off like flies" you refer to, and for NZ excess deaths have actual been negative during the last couple of years due to COVID measures as claimed by Dr. Baker.

One of those covid "deaths" was from someone that was shot, only later to have found to have tested positive for covid during the autopsy.
The deaths and medical incidents on the sports field I was referring to was heart related, possibly myocarditis or vaccine related injury that was not previously identified.
I have 2 friends who are vaccine injured and have terrible effects from the vaccine.
Its quite common.

Some time ago we standardised the counting to follow other countries so that data provides a proper comparison. Like all data there are multiple ways of counting and interpreting numbers so the standardisation was important. It would be good though to be told how many people died with covid as the only or the primary cause of death.

Regarding your dig at vaccine injury, we've been over and over that and that's where you topple into CT territory. Yes, there are some vaccine injuries. But there are far far far more injuries in the people who actually get covid, especially when they are unvaccinated. The vaccine protects from a lot of that. And just because they didn't make the statistics we see every day doesn't mean it doesn't happen. There's long covid, there are autoimmune issues, there's ongoing heart disease. And so it goes.