(30-05-2022, 08:05 AM)Praktica Wrote: Years ago, I was involved in a group which produced a 3 monthly magazine - an "alternative lifestyle" magazine called Mushroom. We used to get new people coming to our meetings, with wonderful ideas of what we could do. We would tell them to work on their ideas, and come back with a viable project...few ever returned.covids over, so now i go out onto the interwebby and rail against the minimisers, the cultural apologists, fluffy duck academia and our impotent police force.
This is the problem I see with threads like this - lots of identifying problems, and complaints "they" aren't doing enough, but few practical ideas to help solve the problems, and little personal committment from those complaining, to solve the problems.
i will make lots of noise, piss heaps of people off, get up in faces, get thrown out, banned, disbarred and excommunicated. i will force people to think about it. i will shove the topic and its stench right under noses.  as well as the written tirades i send to our politicians, thats my personal commitment. 
i have offered several ideas not deemed palatable enough for the apologists here. nothing beyond asking that laws be upheld and the justice system applied accordingly.
ive many more, but am reluctant to share them with such an indifferent audience who seem happy with the status quo. 
im pretty sure i already contribute to the systems we have created and charged to deal with the issue.
i wonder why i do tho, they do nothing but whine about being understaffed and underpaid and the problems grow worse.  if we were to defund anything in this country i would start with our social services. shrinks and empaths that live in lala land, write reports, go to conferences, and fuck all else, as evidenced by our statistics.
i know my taxes also include a fair bit for the police too, who refuse to investigate or prosecute these killers.
how can i hold these folks to task?
short of vigilante action theres little else left at grass roots. those we pay to do the job, dont, and we let them.  so im gonna be a dick about that for a start. are they lazy or frightened, or have they been instructed to stand down?
now if our lily livered soft cock social system could intervene at some point, interrupt the cycle, then our soft cock police wont have to go thru the indignity of criminals and their families laughing at them and treating them like a joke. which is what we have now.
then i wont have to be a prick about it.
i have a real problem with infanticide being deemed part of our culture, 
i just cannot tolerate it.
(30-05-2022, 10:58 AM)Lilith7 Wrote: If we were to get off our collective bums & target the problem at all levels, that might help.we already do this (parenting classes etc) basic budgeting blah blah. we have systems in place for families as victims of violence. but still no change, more deaths. if we could prosecute and incarcerate the offenders it would go a long way towards making families safer, would it not?  you cant beat the shit out of your partner or kids from a jail cell.  but this is not the answer im told. but im not told what is.  its not whatever we are doing now, thats not working.
Parenting classes in schools (compulsory) including the basics of budgeting etc. etc. for starters. And get help to those families which are struggling with violence & any types of abuse - actual help & support, to become better able to cope, with that help continuing for years if needed.
Address poverty here - & as its taken 30 odd years to get this bad, we can't expect fast results. And get input from the experts in this area since they're the people dealing with it so should know what's needed.
lil its been bad for fifty years and getting worse, we are going backwards, failing, losing. what we are doing does not work and has not worked, at all.  we cant expect fast results, but surely negative results are less acceptable, and thats where we are now, it worsens, on our watch.  we have made no positive progress in that time.
So if you disappear out of view You know I will never say goodbye