(28-05-2022, 04:07 PM)Lilith7 Wrote: "Woolly thinking " my arse; its what needs to happen.ohlook , a unicorn shitting glitter flecked rainbow coloured poop
And it was Celia Lashlie - who was greatly experienced - who said that the best, most effective way was not to continually judge & berate but instead to get alongside & give support & help.
Although I agree about entire families just clamming up; ways & means of ending that particular nonsense may have to include imprisonment for attempting to pervert the course of justice; I'm fairly sure we have a law about that. And probably the threat of using it would be sufficient.
But not the rest since that's likely to have far reaching effects which are likely to make things worse for any children involved.
hows that 'working alongside and giving support' been working out lill? can you show me any significant , hell id settle for insignificant change this has generated? 
abject and evident failure for over fifty years. in the worst  five developed countries for infanticide  on earth? 
hardly a success story. it clearly doesnt work, and i think disingenuous of you to suggest it as a viable solution.
ive come up with alternative solutions we can start today if we wanted to without spending another additional cent on trying to deal with it. note, trying.
brutal and distasteful as my approach is, it is not as ugly and brutal as the act of infanticide.
killing babies with your bare hands is an extreme act which begets an extreme reaction.
these are difficult decisions, demanding, uncomfortable, ethical/moral discussion of a question that we dislike, which we find distasteful and bitter, but must answer nonetheless.
id be gratified indeed to hear some alternative offerings, as opposed to umbrage and defensiveness for any of mine
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