(30-03-2022, 12:33 PM)king1 Wrote:So if unions are so good at what they do and beneficial for their members - why is it that so few people join them now?   There is a reason - just not one the unions like.(30-03-2022, 12:15 PM)Wainuiguy Wrote: Stupid law -basically compulsory unionism by stealth.  A business in Invercargil shouldn't be aligned with a similar business in Auckland. People have the option to join a union if they wish - the fact so few do shows that unions are basically useless.  Not sure your logic is sound in that argument .  Maybe unions are 'useless' (as you put it) simply because they have less influence these days and/or are not as needed as they used to be because current labour laws are less tolerant of exploitation. 
I guess the point being, should National get back in and start rolling back employee rights, then you will find union membership grows considerably....
(30-03-2022, 01:46 PM)Lilith7 Wrote: If there were no unscrupulous employers, there would be no need for unions.Unfortunately there will always be employers who take advantage of people - and even when unions were compulsory it was the case.  
One does not necessarily mean the other doesn't happen.