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"Game on" says Luxon
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(22-02-2022, 04:47 AM)Magoo Wrote: i think businessmen make great leaders.
they know the workings and processes necessary to run an organisation.
they are objective and used to making hard decisions.
they know how to manage people
they know how to compromise
they have a visible, measurable background of success.

you might be an awesome geography teacher, or the best coder in the game
but thats all knitting with yogurt when it comes to finance and governance.
Hallelujah, that is it in a nutshell. Like this Magoo intelligent and funny IMHO..

(22-02-2022, 05:44 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: I have worked for some great business people who couldn't manage people at all. The staff turnover made that seriously obvious, and yet these managers kept blaming their people.

Governance is about managing people. The current debacle is a perfect illustration. Money simply won't sort it. Nor will organisational expertise. People skills might.

Those and a few water cannon.
How can you say they were a great business people if they couldn't manage staff. Being  great in business just does not come down to how much money you can make.

(22-02-2022, 06:12 AM)Magoo Wrote: people management was one of five attributes (out of a dozen) i gave as a good leader.
lets say im wrong and successful businessman dont have people handling skills.
isometrically they succeed, they find people who do. i should have said they know when to get people who manage people. they are problem solvers. steve jobs springs to mind.
if empathy and good PR during crises were all thats needed for the job then we're spoiled for choice.
effective leadership requires so much more.

(21-02-2022, 07:00 PM)king1 Wrote: surely five as Prime Minister of a country should count for something... being re-elected suggests she was doing something right, even though National were doing everything wrong...

I think as soon as a businessman get the top job all they will want to do is run the country like a business, and every department will become a profit center, which means all social services will get the big squeeze...

There needs to be a balance...
i dont think governance based on how generous you are with welfare and social services is a huge factor to the majority of the voting public.
Good point Magoo re a business owner can always get someone in with the people skills.
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"Game on" says Luxon - by Lilith7 - 31-01-2022, 02:02 PM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by king1 - 31-01-2022, 02:29 PM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by Zurdo - 31-01-2022, 02:47 PM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by Magoo - 31-01-2022, 03:15 PM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by Lilith7 - 31-01-2022, 04:14 PM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by Magoo - 31-01-2022, 04:17 PM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by Zurdo - 31-01-2022, 04:31 PM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by Lilith7 - 31-01-2022, 06:29 PM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by Magoo - 31-01-2022, 07:39 PM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by kerryalan - 02-02-2022, 05:03 PM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by yousnoozeyoulose - 02-02-2022, 05:29 PM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by Lilith7 - 02-02-2022, 05:50 PM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by Praktica - 02-02-2022, 05:55 PM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by Lilith7 - 02-02-2022, 06:04 PM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by mike - 21-02-2022, 01:48 AM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by Praktica - 21-02-2022, 06:53 AM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by Olive - 21-02-2022, 07:47 AM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by Oh_hunnihunni - 21-02-2022, 08:22 AM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by Lilith7 - 21-02-2022, 10:26 AM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by king1 - 21-02-2022, 11:37 AM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by Lilith7 - 21-02-2022, 01:40 PM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by Magoo - 21-02-2022, 01:44 PM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by Lilith7 - 21-02-2022, 01:46 PM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by Magoo - 21-02-2022, 01:51 PM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by mike - 21-02-2022, 04:41 PM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by Lilith7 - 21-02-2022, 06:00 PM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by mike - 21-02-2022, 06:23 PM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by Lilith7 - 22-02-2022, 12:15 PM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by Olive - 21-02-2022, 06:52 PM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by king1 - 21-02-2022, 07:00 PM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by Praktica - 21-02-2022, 08:31 PM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by mike - 21-02-2022, 09:49 PM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by Magoo - 22-02-2022, 04:47 AM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by mike - 22-02-2022, 10:14 AM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by Oh_hunnihunni - 22-02-2022, 05:44 AM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by Magoo - 22-02-2022, 06:12 AM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by king1 - 22-02-2022, 07:35 AM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by Praktica - 22-02-2022, 07:27 AM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by Oh_hunnihunni - 22-02-2022, 07:32 AM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by Oh_hunnihunni - 22-02-2022, 11:24 AM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by mike - 22-02-2022, 04:14 PM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by Magoo - 22-02-2022, 12:08 PM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by Magoo - 22-02-2022, 12:28 PM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by Lilith7 - 22-02-2022, 12:33 PM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by Wainuiguy - 13-03-2022, 06:05 AM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by Magoo - 13-03-2022, 06:29 AM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by an amniote - 13-03-2022, 08:40 AM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by king1 - 13-03-2022, 08:50 AM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by an amniote - 13-03-2022, 09:00 AM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by harm_less - 13-03-2022, 08:59 AM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by Magoo - 13-03-2022, 09:10 AM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by an amniote - 13-03-2022, 09:11 AM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by harm_less - 13-03-2022, 09:19 AM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by Magoo - 13-03-2022, 09:24 AM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by an amniote - 13-03-2022, 09:37 AM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by Lilith7 - 13-03-2022, 01:27 PM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by Magoo - 13-03-2022, 10:12 AM
RE: "Game on" says Luxon - by an amniote - 13-03-2022, 10:34 AM

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