12-02-2022, 02:05 PM
(12-02-2022, 10:11 AM)Magoo Wrote: people are being manipulated
and its not msm
That does seem to be happening, unfortunately.
They seem to be very confused & rather limited people, who are for some bizarre reason intent on aping the more gullible American 'protesters' who stormed their capitol & are now being sent to prison after their trials. And they seem to have strong links to the hard rightwing which seems very close to actual fascism, in particular Kelvyn Alp.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/...mouthpiece
"From the beginning, it was clear the protestÔÇÖs loudest advocates would have to hold two contradictory thoughts in their heads: It would be a peaceful and non-violent expression of people power that would stop the sinister figures they believed were deserving of the harshest punishments imaginable.
ÔÇ£What I suggest we do is, we pull these people out of Parliament, and we arrest them,ÔÇØ Kelvyn Alp said early in the broadcast, before the trucks had even hit the road.
Counterspin had been arguing for a complete occupation, a ÔÇ£dig inÔÇØ, as Alp described it.
ÔÇ£If people want a nice, peaceful end where the streets are not going to run red, you better get off your ass and join that convoy, go to Parliament, and stand them down,ÔÇØ he said during an earlier interview with a guest on the first day."
Someone else was taking that further & suggesting that the PM & 120 MP's all be hanged. These are not reasonable & rational people.
"The camera then stopped on a man wearing a yellow star (invoking the oppression of Jews in Nazi Germany) who was shouting into a megaphone.
ÔÇ£WeÔÇÖre going to have our prime minister and 120 politicians brought out here one day and hung for what theyÔÇÖre doing to this country, and weÔÇÖre going to have the top media people brought out here and hung for what theyÔÇÖre doing to this country,ÔÇØ the man said, as children watched.
Alp was exaggerating for effect, but was the man shouting that same message on the steps of Parliament an hour later in on the joke? What about the person who spray-painted ÔÇ£hang emÔÇÖ highÔÇØ on the forecourt, beneath a smiley face and a love heart? What about the person dangling a noose from their truck, or the person holding a sign advocating for love, telling a journalist they would be executed?"Wearing a yellow star to apparently show what that fool claims to be oppression, he makes it abundantly clear that he hasn't the least idea that what he wants is very obviously far more akin to the actions of the Nazi's. These are clearly not very intelligent, well educated or well informed people. ┬á
Much like the Groundswell protest, the protest seems to have been grabbed & taken over by those keen to spread misinformation. In particular extreme right wing & racist groups.
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/hijacked-the-...its-rudder
"Counterspin is one of the largest platforms for conspiracy theories and far-right ideology in New Zealand. It airs on an online TV channel set up by former Donald Trump advisor and far-right extremist Steve Bannon and was started by Kelvyn Alp, an extremist known for agitating for armed resistance against the New Zealand government in the early 2000s.
They got tacit support from politicians like Winston Peters as well as white supremacist groups like Action Zealandia."
I should think Winston will move to disassociate himself fairly swiftly given the direction they seem to be going in.
in order to be old & wise, you must first be young & stupid. (I'm still working on that.)