02-02-2022, 12:25 PM
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so i can call myself a chinaman if im from china, but not someone who isnt chinese?
that doesnt seem right.
its only derogatory because we've made it so through negative usage, like the term 'liberal'
its not the word' chinaman's fault that it was used to portray a certain image.
i dont see the term englishman as derogatory. and im not even from england ffs
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Perhaps you missed this bit: ". Its derogatory connotations evolved from its use in pejorative contexts regarding Chinese people and other Asians[5] as well as its grammatical incorrectness which resembles stereotypical characterizations of Chinese accents in English-speaking associated with discrimination."
The equivalent of Englishman is Chinese Man, not Chinaman. The nearest equivalent to Chinaman I can think of is Englander, but that doesn't of course have a derogatory aspect ( can you guess why?).
I imagine most languages including the various Chinese ones have plenty of derogatory ways of referring to foreigners.
so i can call myself a chinaman if im from china, but not someone who isnt chinese?
that doesnt seem right.
its only derogatory because we've made it so through negative usage, like the term 'liberal'
its not the word' chinaman's fault that it was used to portray a certain image.
i dont see the term englishman as derogatory. and im not even from england ffs
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Perhaps you missed this bit: ". Its derogatory connotations evolved from its use in pejorative contexts regarding Chinese people and other Asians[5] as well as its grammatical incorrectness which resembles stereotypical characterizations of Chinese accents in English-speaking associated with discrimination."
The equivalent of Englishman is Chinese Man, not Chinaman. The nearest equivalent to Chinaman I can think of is Englander, but that doesn't of course have a derogatory aspect ( can you guess why?).
I imagine most languages including the various Chinese ones have plenty of derogatory ways of referring to foreigners.