02-02-2022, 11:32 AM
(02-02-2022, 09:33 AM)Olive Wrote:so i can call myself a chinaman if im from china, but not someone who isnt chinese?(02-02-2022, 08:41 AM)Magoo Wrote: i get called an englishman, the scots are cool with scotsman.I'm with your wife on this one.   If I hear my husband saying "Chinaman" I get all salty too.  Let Wiki explain.
if i call someone from china a chinaman my wife gets all salty.
its confuddling
Chinaman┬á(/╦êt╩âa╔¬n╔Ö.m╔Ön/) is an┬áethnic slur, a pejorative term referring to a┬áChinese man or person, a┬áMainland Chinese national┬áor, in some cases, a┬áperson native to geographical East Asia┬áor of perceived East Asian race. While the term has no negative connotations in older dictionaries[1][2]┬áand the usage of such compound terms as┬áEnglishman,┬áFrenchman┬áand┬áIrishman[3]┬áare sometimes cited as unobjectionable parallels,[4]┬áthe term is noted as having pejorative overtones by modern dictionaries. Its derogatory connotations evolved from its use in pejorative contexts regarding Chinese people and other Asians[5]┬áas well as its grammatical incorrectness which resembles stereotypical characterizations of Chinese accents in English-speaking associated with discrimination.[6][7][8]┬áWhile usage of the term┬áChinaman┬áis nowadays strongly discouraged by┬áAsian American┬áorganizations,[9][10][11][12]┬áit has also been used as a self-referential archetype by authors and artists of Asian descent.[13]┬áIt may have come from literal translation into English of the Chinese term for "Chinese man/person", õ©¡Õ£ïõ║║ (Zh┼ìnggu├│ r├®n) = "China man/person".
that doesnt seem right.
its only derogatory because we've made it so through negative usage, like the term 'liberal'
its not the word' chinaman's fault that it was used to portray a certain image.
i dont see the term englishman as derogatory. and im not even from england ffs
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