3 drownings today alone....wtf?

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Some didn't just decide to move to Oz though; their parents took them there when they were just little kids.  And Australia has made it rather more difficult for Kiwis to get citizenship since about 2017, having gone back on what they'd told John Key they'd be doing; some may have to wait for up to 10 years .

Without a doubt, it has become harder to get citizenship but those kids should grow up knowing that they need it and what's expected. Leave the fine print for later but don't let them be surprised by it later on. I'd be prepared to bet $$$ that teens from other countries know exactly what the steps to citizenship are.

There was a recent article in the Herald about one of these guys. First brush with the law at 16. FFS! Then he was surprised that later on the country decided he wasn't a good fit. Nothing in the article about applications for citizenship, he seemed to be happy not to commit fully to the country his parents adopted.

Not every parent is perfect; some are feckless, & every country has some of those - it isn't confined to Kiwi families living in Oz. 

 I think the way the Australian govt is behaving towards the 501's  is  barbaric. They've deported at least one person who'd not been convicted of any crime


https://www.theguardian.com/australia-ne...ls-in-2009

"Paul has no criminal history but was refused entry to New Zealand because of AFP advice he was a member of the Rebels motorcycle club, immigration and police officers in Auckland told the family.

Australian with no criminal history handcuffed and flown home because federal police intelligence tied him to gang he left seven years earlier after ÔÇÿnightmareÔÇÖ of intimidation"


https://theconversation.com/why-new-zeal...licy-99447

"Typically, people are notified that their visas have been revoked while they are serving a prison term. In some distressing cases, visa-holders have been intercepted┬áafter theyÔÇÖve been released from jail, or even taken from their distraught families in pre-dawn household raids."

https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/12-03-2...ion-policy

"As the number of deportees has mounted, so too has the death toll. In the past three years, at least four New Zealand citizens have died in Australian custody or immediately following deportation, and researchers believe there are almost certainly more."