Another article about the protestors.

[Praktica]

It discusses freedom.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/12781533...edom-means

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Andrea Vance also has an interesting take on the protest.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politic...-new-virus

[ObeWan]

Hard to disagree with Andrea Vance, and for me this was the passage that got me:

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The freedom convoy is not the dispossessed and disenfranchised of AmericaÔÇÖs Rust Belt. It is frustrating in the extreme to see these people portrayed as the innocent or misguided victims of a cruel state, or economic disparity.

They exercised their freedom of choice and rejected the vaccine. Now they are throwing a tantrum on the lawn because they donÔÇÖt like the consequences.

ÔÇÿGood KiwisÔÇÖ do not intimidate schoolkids, make death threats, terrorise neighbourhoods, damage public property and bring small businesses to their knees. This is not our Springbok tour moment, and these people are not noble freedom fighters. This is Trumpism.
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Not ÔÇÿgood kiwisÔÇÖ

[Olive]

Both very good pieces. It's time to stop calling them "protesters" though, they are insurrectionists and occupiers.

[Oh_hunnihunni]

Mr Coster on Q&A right now.

[Magoo]

i thought this was well constructed

"Around this group of ordinary folk, there are nefarious forces at work. Well-known agitators continue to spread misinformation. They promote a narrative that the Government is against its own people, and that Kiwis need to rise up and reclaim their rights, using whatever force or means is necessary."

[Lilith7]

This from the Andrea Vance article says it all for me:


"Chant hare krishna, grow herbs, practice yoga and smoke the peace pipe all you like. The minute you pitch your tent next to a swastika, a noose swinging for politicians and journalists, and extremist Kelvyn Alp, you are aligned."


Either those brandishing swastikas should have been immediately removed by the other groups, or the others should have withdrawn & allowed the world to see their nazi hatred & ignorance.

[jim157]

This from the  Andrea Vance article says it all for me:


"Chant hare krishna, grow herbs, practice yoga and smoke the peace pipe all you like. The minute you pitch your tent next to a swastika, a noose swinging for politicians and journalists, and extremist Kelvyn Alp, you are aligned."


Either those brandishing swastikas should have been immediately removed by the other groups, or the others should have withdrawn & allowed the world to see their nazi hatred & ignorance.

like this you mean



https://youtu.be/g9rsxFaq6Ig

[Magoo]

correct me if im wrong and i might be i only watched a minute of it
but was there a swaztika somewhere there?
i didnt see one
relevance your honour
so stipulated 
bailiff
kick him in the balls.

[Oh_hunnihunni]

Those who lie down with dogs get up with fleas...

[king1]

This from the  Andrea Vance article says it all for me:


"Chant hare krishna, grow herbs, practice yoga and smoke the peace pipe all you like. The minute you pitch your tent next to a swastika, a noose swinging for politicians and journalists, and extremist Kelvyn Alp, you are aligned."


Either those brandishing swastikas should have been immediately removed by the other groups, or the others should have withdrawn & allowed the world to see their nazi hatred & ignorance.

like this you mean

https://youtu.be/g9rsxFaq6Ig

I imagine Comrade probably has a very different meaning in Hungary...  Context is everything...

yep it does - In the context of Hungary I would call that owning it

• The┬áHungarian┬áword for comrade is┬áelvt├írs;┬áelv┬ámeans 'principle' or 'tenet' while┬át├írs┬ámeans 'fellow'. As the┬áHungarian Working People's Party┬ágradually gained power after the┬áSecond World War, the word displaced all prior titles like┬á├║r┬á("Mister") and became the title used generally for everyone except for people who were obviously not "tenet fellows" e.g. those who committed┬ápolitical crime┬áagainst the socialist state. After the democratic transition the word became obsolete and it is used derogatorily to address politicians on the┬ápolitical left.
  

[Magoo]

from memory it (the word comrade) has its roots in malay, or indonesian?
was adopted by the Bolsheviks back when they were agitating
and has been woven into communism since.

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the usual rider may be applied to that post
it may contain some or many untruths wild guesses and divine prophecy
in lieu of research.

[Lilith7]

This from the  Andrea Vance article says it all for me:


"Chant hare krishna, grow herbs, practice yoga and smoke the peace pipe all you like. The minute you pitch your tent next to a swastika, a noose swinging for politicians and journalists, and extremist Kelvyn Alp, you are aligned."


Either those brandishing swastikas should have been immediately removed by the other groups, or the others should have withdrawn & allowed the world to see their nazi hatred & ignorance.

like this you mean



https://youtu.be/g9rsxFaq6Ig

Not unless you can find a swastika in that footage, no. But any chance will do apparently.

[king1]

did the nazis even use comrade? wasn't that a communism thing

[Magoo]

read above magoo post for a brief synopsis of the word its origins and usage.

[Olive]

I'd always assumed it was derived from French but according to Wiki:

"The term comrade generally means 'mate', 'colleague', or 'ally', and derives from the Spanish and Portuguese, term camarada, literally meaning 'chamber mate', from Latin camera, meaning 'chamber' or 'room'. It may also specifically mean "fellow soldier""