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		Im not religious but found this amusing.https://tinyurl.com/y5zwwyj3 
A retired neurologist claims they have figured out the proper cause of Jesus's death. 
According to the Bible, Jesus fell while carrying the cross before his side was pierced by a Roman soldier's spear, which caused blood and water to spurt out.
 
So obviously being nailed to a cross had stuff all to do with it then?
	
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		i think he fell three times en route to the mount.each time has a little significance to the story.
 
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		Well jeez - a spear through the side would likely do it. Depends on where exactly but it might have pierced something vital like a lung, that'd make breathing a bit difficult.
 Our ancestors had some hideous ways of killing people back in those days. The ancient Egyptians had a particularly nasty one, so nasty its a wonder anyone ever risked it.
 
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		17-04-2022, 05:47 PM 
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		in catholic iconography the heart is often on display with a big slice carved in it, or the spear stuck in it. ![[Image: 54aix9xslf_Schiffer_SACREDHEART.jpg]](https://angelusnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/54aix9xslf_Schiffer_SACREDHEART.jpg)  
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		 (17-04-2022, 05:47 PM)Magoo Wrote:  in catholic iconography the heart is often on display with a big slice carved in it, or the spear stuck in it.
 
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Yeah...they're very keen on the open heart surgery look for some bizarre reason. You'd think such images might have the effect of putting people off joining their religion, but apparently not.
	 
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		Thats what my heart will look like when I go to have surgery
	 
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		A pastor  & some of his followers sang to a captive audience on a plane - not all passengers were enthralled.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...songs.html 
Surely that's exactly why emergency exits are there.....??  
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		Its a shame it wasn't the Bish, they could have pushed him out of the emergency exit.
	 
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		 (18-04-2022, 08:25 PM)Oldfellah Wrote:  Its a shame it wasn't the Bish, they could have pushed him out of the emergency exit. Now there's  a tempting idea!    
Sans parachute, obviously...      
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		interesting side barwhen the apostles heard that jesus had risen, thomas didnt buy it, sceptical.
 so when jesus showed up he told thomas to stick his hand in the wound,
 which thomas did. ugh.
 
 this is where the term 'doubting thomas' originated.
 
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		 (19-04-2022, 07:07 PM)Magoo Wrote:  interesting side barwhen the apostles heard that jesus had risen, thomas didnt buy it, sceptical.
 so when jesus showed up he told thomas to stick his hand in the wound,
 which thomas did. ugh.
 
 this is where the term 'doubting thomas' originated.
 Yuk! Gross - as well as highly unlikely, but those long ago humans seemed to have an affinity with gore & cruelty really. 
    
Perhaps we really have evolved just a tiny bit.
	 
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		The spear was to hasten death, to reduce the suffering of drowning in his own fluids. Not every crucified got that mercy stroke, most were just left to suffer.
	 
		
		
			
		 
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