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Hone Harawira is upset - Oldfellah - 15-12-2021
Former M─üori Party MP Hone Harawira is upset at the police, claiming they vetted members of his iwi-led checkpoint group Tai Tokerau Border Control ahead of the Northland boundary coming into effect.
"Our people, over the last 18-20 months, have included bus drivers, gang members, doctors, lawyers, mothers, teachers - all sorts of people. Now, all of a sudden at the last minute, it got dropped on us that everyone had to be vetted."
Absolutely vett them, who knows who will be remembering your name, if your at the border you sure as hell aint at home, so easy to find where you live.
And as stated the last 10-20 months have included gang members, so let him be upset we want our homes safe while we are away.
RE: Hone Harawira is upset - Oh_hunnihunni - 15-12-2021
You need to get off the anti Maori thing oldfellah. It's boring.
RE: Hone Harawira is upset - Oldfellah - 15-12-2021
(15-12-2021, 09:56 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: You need to get off the anti Maori thing oldfellah. It's boring.
You have it wrong, im only more or less quoting what it says on the news sites , the as you say the Anti Maori is not me at all, im trying to make people discuss things not have a go at each other.
RE: Hone Harawira is upset - Magoo - 15-12-2021
hone's a maori?
RE: Hone Harawira is upset - Oldfellah - 15-12-2021
(15-12-2021, 10:06 AM)Magoo Wrote: hone's a maori?I thought he was a former MP?
RE: Hone Harawira is upset - Magoo - 15-12-2021
and an mp too you say?
well i never...i never took him to be a military man
RE: Hone Harawira is upset - harm_less - 15-12-2021
(15-12-2021, 10:08 AM)Oldfellah Wrote:You're both right. Google is your friend.(15-12-2021, 10:06 AM)Magoo Wrote: hone's a maori?I thought he was a former MP?
RE: Hone Harawira is upset - Oldfellah - 15-12-2021
(15-12-2021, 10:14 AM)harm_less Wrote:Geee the things you can learn from the interweb(15-12-2021, 10:08 AM)Oldfellah Wrote: I thought he was a former MP?You're both right. Google is your friend.
RE: Hone Harawira is upset - Magoo - 15-12-2021
(15-12-2021, 10:14 AM)harm_less Wrote:yeah, i dont really do research.(15-12-2021, 10:08 AM)Oldfellah Wrote: I thought he was a former MP?You're both right. Google is your friend.
not my thing.
RE: Hone Harawira is upset - harm_less - 15-12-2021
(15-12-2021, 10:16 AM)Magoo Wrote:Ain't that an accurate appraisal of online content these days(15-12-2021, 10:14 AM)harm_less Wrote: You're both right. Google is your friend.yeah, i dont really do research.
not my thing.
RE: Hone Harawira is upset - Oh_hunnihunni - 15-12-2021
He's another attention seeking media diva. I ignore him on sight, along with quite a few others.
RE: Hone Harawira is upset - Magoo - 15-12-2021
(15-12-2021, 10:24 AM)harm_less Wrote:i know what i know and make the rest up(15-12-2021, 10:16 AM)Magoo Wrote: yeah, i dont really do research.Ain't that an accurate appraisal of online content these days
not my thing.
RE: Hone Harawira is upset - Magoo - 15-12-2021
i cannot speak to oldfellahs intentions. but it is a current event that we would be remiss were it not up for discussion
RE: Hone Harawira is upset - Lilith7 - 15-12-2021
I'm not a fan of Hone Harawira, I think he's too hotheaded but he does have a point about the timing. Anyone doing border control now should be vetted for obvious reasons, but to suddenly stipulate that a couple of days ago will have made it more difficult than it needed to be, to organise people able to do border checks.
A bit of planning & commonsense could have avoided this situation.
RE: Hone Harawira is upset - Me+Me - 16-12-2021
(15-12-2021, 09:52 AM)Oldfellah Wrote: Former M─üori Party MP Hone Harawira is upset at the police, claiming they vetted members of his iwi-led checkpoint group Tai Tokerau Border Control ahead of the Northland boundary coming into effect.Oh_hunnihunniYou need to get off the anti Maori thing oldfellah. It's boring.
"Our people, over the last 18-20 months, have included bus drivers, gang members, doctors, lawyers, mothers, teachers - all sorts of people. Now, all of a sudden at the last minute, it got dropped on us that everyone had to be vetted."
Absolutely vett them, who knows who will be remembering your name, if your at the border you sure as hell aint at home, so easy to find where you live.
And as stated the last 10-20 months have included gang members, so let him be upset we want our homes safe while we are away.
Actually I don't see Oldfellah as making any kind of 'anti maori' statement there at all.  It's plain common sense.
RE: Hone Harawira is upset - Oh_hunnihunni - 16-12-2021
Well, if that is so, then why mention ethnicity at all?
Before we are of any race, we are human beings. Good, bad, and ugly. It would be a step forward if we put that reality first.
In fact, there is a modern philosopher somewhere who I heard suggest that if we could just avoid using negatively toned descriptive words for human beings we could substantially reduce conflict at all levels in all communities. It is an interesting thought. We could give it a try, starting with ethnic labels.
RE: Hone Harawira is upset - Me+Me - 16-12-2021
(16-12-2021, 10:29 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Well, if that is so, then why mention ethnicity at all?"Former M─üori Party MP Hone Harawira"
Before we are of any race, we are human beings. Good, bad, and ugly. It would be a step forward if we put that reality first.
In fact, there is a modern philosopher somewhere who I heard suggest that if we could just avoid using negatively toned descriptive words for human beings we could substantially reduce conflict at all levels in all communities. It is an interesting thought. We could give it a try, starting with ethnic labels.
That's a racist statement?
RE: Hone Harawira is upset - king1 - 16-12-2021
(16-12-2021, 10:29 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Well, if that is so, then why mention ethnicity at all?we could start by removing negative rep here? 
Before we are of any race, we are human beings. Good, bad, and ugly. It would be a step forward if we put that reality first.
In fact, there is a modern philosopher somewhere who I heard suggest that if we could just avoid using negatively toned descriptive words for human beings we could substantially reduce conflict at all levels in all communities. It is an interesting thought. We could give it a try, starting with ethnic labels.
RE: Hone Harawira is upset - Oh_hunnihunni - 16-12-2021
Noooooooo!
I like seeing who thinks I am an ass.
RE: Hone Harawira is upset - C_T_Russell - 21-12-2021
(15-12-2021, 09:52 AM)Oldfellah Wrote: Former M─üori Party MP Hone Harawira is upset at the police, claiming they vetted members of his iwi-led checkpoint group Tai Tokerau Border Control ahead of the Northland boundary coming into effect.Good on the police for doing their job!
"Our people, over the last 18-20 months, have included bus drivers, gang members, doctors, lawyers, mothers, teachers - all sorts of people. Now, all of a sudden at the last minute, it got dropped on us that everyone had to be vetted."
Absolutely vett them, who knows who will be remembering your name, if your at the border you sure as hell aint at home, so easy to find where you live.
And as stated the last 10-20 months have included gang members, so let him be upset we want our homes safe while we are away.
Dont know whats wrong with Hone, this is pure racism and division - nothing more.
These racist iwi checkpoints need to go.
I know many Maori themselves who disagree about how iwi are behaving in this regard too!
Sign the petition here:
https://www.stopiwicheckpoints.nz/