Traffic Light System - Printable Version

Traffic Light System - Printable Version

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Traffic Light System - TygerTung - 18-11-2021

Seems it is coming in on 15 December?

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/455909/covid-19-traffic-lights-at-end-of-month-auckland-border-to-open-mid-december

That would be good as I have a requirement to travel to Auckland.

RE: Traffic Light System - king1 - 18-11-2021

it's too soon... disappointingly, labour is pandering to the travel industry and Brian Tamaki and his biker mates

RE: Traffic Light System - TygerTung - 18-11-2021

I don't think it's too soon. We've all had plenty of time to get immunised, and in fact there will still be time to get immunised if for some bizarre reason anyone hasn't gotten around to it yet.

RE: Traffic Light System - Praktica - 18-11-2021

(18-11-2021, 07:34 AM)king1 Wrote: it's too soon... disappointingly, labour is pandering to the travel industry and Brian Tamaki and his biker mates

I think its more subtle than that. Elimination bought us time, last year, when there was no vaccine, and few treatments. Now, there is a vaccine, and there are treatments, for covid. With the delta variant getting into population groups which choose not to engage with the system, elimination is not possible. The traffic light system is a reward for the vaccinated - and restrictions for the unvaccinated.
The government can only govern with the consent of the population.

RE: Traffic Light System - Outsider - 18-11-2021

(18-11-2021, 07:34 AM)king1 Wrote: it's too soon... disappointingly, labour is pandering to the travel industry and Brian Tamaki and his biker mates

Why do you say that? Do you really think the rest of NZ outside Auckland can live a solitary existence forever?
Covid is not going away, it will always be around, so best thing people can do is to protect themselves and their families.

RE: Traffic Light System - king1 - 18-11-2021

(18-11-2021, 08:02 AM)Outsider Wrote:
(18-11-2021, 07:34 AM)king1 Wrote: it's too soon... disappointingly, labour is pandering to the travel industry and Brian Tamaki and his biker mates

Why do you say that? Do you really think the rest of NZ outside Auckland can live a solitary existence forever?
Covid is not going away, it will always be around, so best thing people can do is to protect themselves and their families.

The rest of New Zealand is not going away either - save your travel for next year and save the rest of the country...

RE: Traffic Light System - TygerTung - 18-11-2021

(18-11-2021, 08:21 AM)king1 Wrote:
(18-11-2021, 08:02 AM)Outsider Wrote: Why do you say that? Do you really think the rest of NZ outside Auckland can live a solitary existence forever?
Covid is not going away, it will always be around, so best thing people can do is to protect themselves and their families.
The rest of New Zealand is not going away either - save your travel for next year and save the rest of the country...

What will happen next year please?

RE: Traffic Light System - king1 - 18-11-2021

let me get out my crystal ball...

RE: Traffic Light System - TygerTung - 18-11-2021

(18-11-2021, 11:17 AM)king1 Wrote: let me get out my crystal ball...

What I mean is, what are we likely to achieve by waiting? We already have the immunisation, so what is waiting until next year likely to achieve?

RE: Traffic Light System - harm_less - 18-11-2021

(18-11-2021, 02:15 PM)TygerTung Wrote:
(18-11-2021, 11:17 AM)king1 Wrote: let me get out my crystal ball...

What I mean is, what are we likely to achieve by waiting? We already have the immunisation, so what is waiting until next year likely to achieve?

Immunisation is far from a certainty as many European countries are currently discovering. Holding off releasing the reins has served our government pretty well so far and I'm quite happy for them to take the softly softly approach in terms of freeing up travel until we're better able to see how others are faring with more liberal control measures.

RE: Traffic Light System - king1 - 18-11-2021

(18-11-2021, 02:15 PM)TygerTung Wrote:
(18-11-2021, 11:17 AM)king1 Wrote: let me get out my crystal ball...

What I mean is, what are we likely to achieve by waiting? We already have the immunisation, so what is waiting until next year likely to achieve?

maybe another 5% of the population immunised, school kids immunised,┬átime to assess, plenty of good reasons.

RE: Traffic Light System - TygerTung - 19-11-2021

(18-11-2021, 02:41 PM)king1 Wrote:
(18-11-2021, 02:15 PM)TygerTung Wrote: What I mean is, what are we likely to achieve by waiting? We already have the immunisation, so what is waiting until next year likely to achieve?

maybe another 5% of the population immunised, school kids immunised,┬átime to assess, plenty of good reasons.

There is still time to get immunised by Dec 15

RE: Traffic Light System - intrade - 20-11-2021

(19-11-2021, 07:11 PM)TygerTung Wrote:
(18-11-2021, 02:41 PM)king1 Wrote: maybe another 5% of the population immunised, school kids immunised,┬átime to assess, plenty of good reasons.

There is still time to get immunised by Dec 15

The problem is┬á you need┬á 2 doses┬á and a few weeks after the second dose to get full protection then 6 month later its at 64% for most┬á again.┬á Some stuff makes┬á sense┬á and some is nonsense some┬á is in between.

RE: Traffic Light System - Don - 20-11-2021

(20-11-2021, 11:02 AM)intrade Wrote:
(19-11-2021, 07:11 PM)TygerTung Wrote: There is still time to get immunised by Dec 15
The problem is┬á you need┬á 2 doses┬á and a few weeks after the second dose to get full protection then 6 month later its at 64% for most┬á again.┬á Some stuff makes┬á sense┬á and some is nonsense some┬á is in between.

Good to see you here Ron.

RE: Traffic Light System - Oh_hunnihunni - 20-11-2021

Might be best to do this in Summer. Winter brings additional layers of complication, as Europe is discovering.

RE: Traffic Light System - Orthelia - 20-11-2021

Just my own thoughts there should've been vaccination for all not just what NZ has
done by step by step thru age etc.

ps I'm a Polio survivor I contracted Polio just after the Sabin vaccine came out

RE: Traffic Light System - TygerTung - 20-11-2021

Really it is easy to get the immunisation right now, so there is really no excuses.

RE: Traffic Light System - CorylusMaxima - 21-11-2021

It's not easy for the old and vulnerable, who after 5 months might be down to only 47% protection in December but still a month away from being allowed a booster. That is why it is too soon. It needs to be delayed to let that group get back to full protection. At the start of this covid thing the emphasis was on protecting those people, but that all seems to have gone out the window and politics is now more important.

RE: Traffic Light System - Ksuzy - 22-11-2021

Can any explain exactly how this traffic system works. Please don't quote me government website. I have read all this, I mean actually the way it will work for business. Will they have a security guard at the front doors, checking your id matches your vaccination certificate. If you don't scan it will there be flashing red lights and a siren because you don't have certification. I get how they would do it for big events as they will check as they check your bags, and your local restaurant could also check but what about malls? It just sounds so big brother to me. Yes I am double vax and so are my family but it still doesn't mean I am comfortable with this. Please don't quote me it is part of being a team of 5 million, and it would kill all my family if we don't. Yes I get it, but I want facts not drama.

RE: Traffic Light System - Magoo - 22-11-2021

im better at drama, sorry.