(14-11-2021, 12:02 PM)Olive Wrote: You might he thinking of Corin Dann's wife Lotta Dann, who has written a couple of excellent books about her journey to sobriety.

(14-11-2021, 11:18 AM)crafters_corner Wrote: https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/300450688/guyon-espiner-the-hard-bit-about-giving-up-drinking-wasnt-what-i-expected

Interesting article about our drinking culture in NZ.

For more, watch Proof premieres at rnz.co.nz/proof and on TVNZ 1 tomorrow at 9:30pm.

I am sure that it was Guyon's wife who was the subject of another story of alcoholism a few years ago, where she talked about her life and how alcohol affected it.

(14-11-2021, 01:27 PM)nzoomed Wrote: Gee, he is looking rather old now since I've last seen him on the telly.
Obviously the drinking has taken its toll.

(14-11-2021, 12:20 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: I found it interesting when I gave up on buying wine for budget reasons and went alcohol free for a good few years, how many people seemed to take offence at my choice. I was actively encouraged to join them, almost as if I was out of step with the mainstream. I have always been a cheap drunk, two glasses is my limit any more and I feel very uncomfortable and the hangover is awful. Same with narcotics and opioids - legal ones, and even weed, though a little of that does help with pain and sleep. Overdo it and I become very disoriented and it is unpleasant.

So, not drinking isn't an issue for me, but I do like the ritual of a cool glass of cheap pinot gris to signal the end of the day. Perhaps for many of us, the ritual and the sociability of sharing a glass or two is the important thing.

If only it could stop at that fewer lives would be damaged.

(14-11-2021, 02:17 PM)Olive Wrote:

(14-11-2021, 12:20 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: I found it interesting when I gave up on buying wine for budget reasons and went alcohol free for a good few years, how many people seemed to take offence at my choice. I was actively encouraged to join them, almost as if I was out of step with the mainstream. I have always been a cheap drunk, two glasses is my limit any more and I feel very uncomfortable and the hangover is awful. Same with narcotics and opioids - legal ones, and even weed, though a little of that does help with pain and sleep. Overdo it and I become very disoriented and it is unpleasant.

So, not drinking isn't an issue for me, but I do like the ritual of a cool glass of cheap pinot gris to signal the end of the day. Perhaps for many of us, the ritual and the sociability of sharing a glass or two is the important thing.

If only it could stop at that fewer lives would be damaged.

I stopped drinking alcohol for a couple of years and found that as long as I was holding a glass of liquid (usually water) nobody took much notice.┬á It was much easier than I expected.┬á When I decided to have the occasional glass of wine I found that I couldn't bear the smell of red or white wine any more, the only kind I liked was Champagne or M├®thode Champenoise.┬á So now, like you, I enjoy the ritual of marking the end of the day with a glass of wine, but any more than one and a half glasses I feel woozy and awful.┬á It's all worked out very well.

(16-11-2021, 08:20 AM)snacks Wrote: I admit I was a pisshead in my day but even then I could never understand why people going to live events have to have alcohol. Do they need dutch courage to be seen in public?

(16-11-2021, 10:14 AM)Lilith7 Wrote: Watching the programme last night, I was struck by what a slippery eel that alcohol industry bloke was. He has all the makings of a future politician, being utterly polished in his avoidance of questions while using a lot of words.
I was pleased that it showed how much liquor outlets deliberately poor areas; it might be an idea for govt to place limits on the number allowed - but can you imagine the screeching if that was even proposed!

(16-11-2021, 05:43 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Interesting article -

https://capsulenz.com/be/flexible-drinking/?utm_campaign=later-linkinbio-capsule_nz&utm_content=later-22310720&utm_medium=social&utm_source=linkin.bio

(16-11-2021, 06:22 PM)Lilith7 Wrote:

(16-11-2021, 05:43 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Interesting article -

https://capsulenz.com/be/flexible-drinking/?utm_campaign=later-linkinbio-capsule_nz&utm_content=later-22310720&utm_medium=social&utm_source=linkin.bio

Interesting that things do seem to have changed slightly, & far more education on addiction would also help.