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CTers claim Gaza/Israel war 'not real' - Lilith7 - 29-10-2023
You have to wonder at the idiocies some can get themselves to believe.
https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-gaza-misinformation-fact-check-e58f9ab8696309305c3ea2bfb269258e
"In the days since Hamas militants stormed into Israel early Oct. 7, a flood of videos and photos purporting to show the conflict have filled social media, making it difficult for onlookers from around the world to sort fact from fiction.
While plenty of real imagery and accounts of the ensuing carnage have emerged, they have been intermingled with users pushing false claims and misrepresenting videos from other events.
Among the fabrications, users have shared false claims that a top Israeli commander had been kidnapped, circulated a false video imitating a BBC News report, and pushed old and unrelated clips of Russian President Vladimir Putin with inaccurate English captions.
Here is a closer look at the misinformation spreading online ÔÇö and the facts.
CLAIM: A major mosque in Iran raised a black flag to call Muslims to war over IsraelÔÇÖs attacks on Gaza.
THE FACTS: The Imam Reza shrine said the flag was raised as a symbol of mourning for the lives lost in IsraelÔÇÖs strikes on Gaza. Experts on Islam and Iran confirmed the flag includes a passage from the Quran that is meant to comfort Muslims that their sacrifices will one day be rewarded.
Social media users are sharing the false claim alongside images and videos of the distinctive gold dome of┬áthe shrine┬áÔÇö a major pilgrimage site for Shiite Muslims in IranÔÇÖs northeast that includes a mosque, library and other institutions ÔÇö with a black banner flying on a flagpole.
ÔÇ£BREAKING: The Black Flag has been raised over Razavi Shrine in Mashhad, Khorasan province, Iran,ÔÇØ wrote one Facebook user who shared the image on Oct. 18, using an alternate name for the complex. ÔÇ£This is a call for war or vengeance.ÔÇØ
https://www.npr.org/2023/10/10/1204755129/video-game-clips-and-old-videos-are-flooding-social-media-about-israel-and-gaza
"One viral video claims to show a Hamas fighter shooting down an Israeli helicopter ÔÇö but it's a┬áclip from the video game Arma 3. A video purporting to show an Israeli woman being attacked in Gaza was┬áfilmed in 2015 in Guatemala. An┬áunverified voice message[b]┬á[/b]circulating on WhatsApp, along with the note "forwarded many times," says a military official has instructed Israelis to stock up on cash, fuel and groceries. Fake accounts posing as a┬áBBC journalist[b]┬á[/b]and the┬á[i]Jerusalem Post[/i]┬ánewspaper[b]┬á[/b]spread false information widely before being suspended by X (formerly known as Twitter).
In the wake of Hamas' surprise attack on Israel and the escalation into war over the weekend, social media platforms and messaging apps are awash in viral rumors, misleading images and videos, and outright falsehoods, making it hard for people in Israel, Gaza and around the world seeking information and facts about the conflict.
Many online videos are being taken out of context or┬ámischaracterized┬áÔÇö a frequent occurrence in breaking news situations where interest is high but verified information is hard to come by."
RE: CTers claim Gaza/Israel war 'not real' - Praktica - 29-10-2023
Anyone who believes anything on social media without verification deserves all the insults they can manage.
RE: CTers claim Gaza/Israel war 'not real' - R2x1 - 30-10-2023
Quote:Anyone who believes anything on social media without verification deserves all the insults they can manage. 
That's unbelievable.
RE: CTers claim Gaza/Israel war 'not real' - Lilith7 - 30-10-2023
(30-10-2023, 01:15 PM)R2x1 Wrote:Quote:Anyone who believes anything on social media without verification deserves all the insults they can manage. 
That's unbelievable.
RE: CTers claim Gaza/Israel war 'not real' - zqwerty - 31-10-2023
An interesting post on Reddit:
My husbandÔÇÖs rabbi uncle wrote a letter in 1947 to my FIL criticizing the creation of Israel
https://old.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/17jwpio/my_husbands_rabbi_uncle_wrote_a_letter_in_1947_to/
RE: CTers claim Gaza/Israel war 'not real' - zqwerty - 31-10-2023
Pentagon says there are no limits on how Israel uses US weapons as death toll climbs amid airstrikes in Gaza
https://www.businessinsider.com/pentagon-on-how-israel-uses-us-weapons-gaza-hamas-2023-10
Hamas leader: We need the blood of women, children and the elderly of Gaza
https://www.clevelandjewishnews.com/jns/hamas-leader-we-need-the-blood-of-women-children-and-the-elderly-of-gaza/article_7e598c7b-c0f7-57b9-a2df-8a407fb0bee1.html
RE: CTers claim Gaza/Israel war 'not real' - zqwerty - 31-10-2023
Festival Attendee Abducted and Paraded by Hamas Was Beheaded: Israeli Prez
https://nz.news.yahoo.com/festival-attendee-shani-louk-abducted-120930898.html
More:
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/30/middleeast/shani-louk-dead-israel-intl/index.html
RE: CTers claim Gaza/Israel war 'not real' - Lilith7 - 31-10-2023
There needs to be an immediate ceasefire NOW. No mucking about, no claiming that this is war time,just stop killing each other's children.
RE: CTers claim Gaza/Israel war 'not real' - zqwerty - 04-11-2023
Hundreds of soldiers waited outside BeÔÇÖeri with terrorists still inside, survivor says
Worth reading including the comments:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/hundreds-of-soldiers-stood-outside-beeri-as-massacre-took-place-survivor-says/
This is why there will be no cease fire, Israel feels justified in taking revenge on the Palestinian attackers.
RE: CTers claim Gaza/Israel war 'not real' - Lilith7 - 04-11-2023
If Israel doesn't stop & continues as it presently is - hitting schools, hospitals & ambulances - then it can no longer claim to hold the moral high ground. Which is going to make its position even more precarious.
Hamas is beyond the pale, has been for most of its existence but until now Israel has managed to hold the moral high ground. They're surrounded by enemies & surely the wiser move must be to hold back & try for peace.
Dogs are right; humans are nuts.
RE: CTers claim Gaza/Israel war 'not real' - zqwerty - 04-11-2023
Survival and destroying the enemy irrespective of collateral damage are their main aims I would say, niceties and sophist discussions of morals and ethics can come later.
Delivering a warning, "do not attack us" that will never be forgotten also a part of the mission.
RE: CTers claim Gaza/Israel war 'not real' - Lilith7 - 04-11-2023
The problem is though that they're surrounded by hostile countries, & while they've managed to come out on top in the past, that may not always happen.
RE: CTers claim Gaza/Israel war 'not real' - C_T_Russell - 09-11-2023
It's real alright and history documents very well how many wars have happened in that aera for thousands of years.