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Offensive 'joke' from National candidate - Lilith7 - 16-04-2023
It seems that nothing changes for those on the right politically; some appear to still live back in the 1950s. You'd think that by now such repulsive, sexist views might have disappeared but apparently not. 
 They're not doing themselves any favours & will be unlikely to gain many votes from women apart from very, very conservative women.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/131771613/how-an-offensive-joke-reveals-a-problem-with-how-national-chooses-its-mps
[b]"OPINION[/b]: ÔÇ£I like my Covid like I like my women. 19. And easy to spread.ÔÇØ
Offensive? Sexist? Inappropriate? Not for National Party candidate Stephen Jack, who shared the video which included the ÔÇÿgagÔÇÖ on Facebook.
On the po-faced scale, it isnÔÇÖt quite in the league of┬ábeating a child with a bed leg (Sam Uffindell).
Nor sending inappropriate text messages to a teenager (Andrew Falloon), leaking sensitive patient data to the media (Hamish Walker), bullying and sexual impropriety (Jami-Lee Ross), or impersonating a former partner online (Jake Bezzant).
But itÔÇÖs certainly up there┬áwith comparing civil unions to polygamy and incest┬á(Greg Fleming), when it comes to unattractive qualities in an elected representative. And it wonÔÇÖt help NationalÔÇÖs shaky standing with women.
The random idiot generator that selects National Party candidates has spat out another couple of beauties.
(After Stuff contacted National on Friday, Jack acknowledged the video he shared was ÔÇ£offensiveÔÇØ and removed it.)
JackÔÇÖs joke comes hot on the heels of news that Fleming, the partyÔÇÖs Maungakiekie candidate, made the homophobic comparison in a press release for the ultra-conservative Maxim Institute think-tank.
Fleming has distanced himself from the ÔÇ£unhelpfulÔÇØ comments, made some twenty years ago during┬áthe civil union debate.
He says he was trying to make a point about contractual law.
But he should not be allowed to slip off the hook so easily. At the same time, his fellow Maxim founder Bruce Logan was linking earlier homosexual law reform to an increase in child abuse.
The institute used an online tool that helped people to send letters to the editors of 76 newspapers. It resulted in the publication of correspondence which compared a gay Labour MP to a rabid dog that ought to be put down.
And while Maxim claims to have shifted its focus from social to fiscal conservatism, there has been no apology for its treatment of the rainbow community.
It is also uncomfortable for National that Fleming was chief executive of Parenting Place when it endorsed a counsellor that offered conversion therapy. (It cut ties when The Spinoff started asking questions.)
┬áIf the Government changes, Fleming is likely to be one of those swelling NationalÔÇÖs so-called ÔÇÿTalibanÔÇÖ faction (an in-house reference to ultra-conservative Christians in the National caucus). Paulo Garcia, a devout Catholic, has also been selected for New Lynn, a Labour stronghold.┬á
The influence of socially conservative Christian MPs has been growing steadily under the leadership of Simon Bridges, Judith Collins and Christopher Luxon and is tipping the balance away from urban liberals.
Undoubtedly, the religious right is emboldened by the culture wars and abortion debate that has dominated US politics, and that Luxon has a strong faith.
Electorally, it makes little sense."
RE: Offensive 'joke' from National candidate - Olive - 16-04-2023
It was such a stupid "joke" too - not funny, deeply misogynist, and also offensive to pandemic victims by its trivialising of a lethal virus. Appalling.
RE: Offensive 'joke' from National candidate - Oh_hunnihunni - 16-04-2023
They keep picking these stupid people.
RE: Offensive 'joke' from National candidate - zqwerty - 16-04-2023
The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.
Bertrand Russell
RE: Offensive 'joke' from National candidate - Oh_hunnihunni - 16-04-2023
Useful thing, doubt. It makes us think critically.
RE: Offensive 'joke' from National candidate - Lilith7 - 16-04-2023
(16-04-2023, 05:31 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: They keep picking these stupid people.
Perhaps, we should be grateful....?
Its that or become unbelievably angry at the level of incompetent stupidity involved in selecting such people.
(16-04-2023, 05:57 PM)zqwerty Wrote: The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.
Bertrand Russell
And he wasn't wrong either. 
RE: Offensive 'joke' from National candidate - jilledge - 17-04-2023
There are a lot of weird politicians, and I don't think it's restricted to the left of the right
RE: Offensive 'joke' from National candidate - Lilith7 - 18-04-2023
While I don't doubt that there's still very offensive sexist & misogynistic views among all older politicians, particularly men, I think those who are listed really speaks for itself.
RE: Offensive 'joke' from National candidate - king1 - 18-04-2023
Hmmm, where to put this?  
RE: Offensive 'joke' from National candidate - Lilith7 - 18-04-2023
(18-04-2023, 03:51 PM)king1 Wrote: Hmmm, where to put this?  
You know, I suspect you know where you can put that...
RE: Offensive 'joke' from National candidate - Oh_hunnihunni - 18-04-2023
(17-04-2023, 09:29 AM)jilledge Wrote: There are a lot of weird politicians, and I don't think it's restricted to the left of the right
You are so right. I'm very disappointed by the current bullying thing going on in the Greens...