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New poll from 1News/Kantar - yousnoozeyoulose - 10-03-2022
At last, something to make the right-whingers a bit less grumpy. They've been so utterly miserable for so long. 
People didn't want Covid. Labour protected them from getting it. Labour did well. Now there's Covid. Labour did bad. A story as old as time.
National 39 (+7)
Labour 37 (-3)
Green 9
Act 8 (-3)
Maori 2
Maori Party hold the balance of power. I'm sure that would turn out great for them for at least one term, and then turn toxic if history is any guide.
RE: New poll from 1News/Kantar - king1 - 10-03-2022
ouch that might hurt someone. Fickle bunch us humans, but still time...
RE: New poll from 1News/Kantar - king1 - 10-03-2022
people have short memories...
RE: New poll from 1News/Kantar - Oh_hunnihunni - 10-03-2022
Really? I'd've thought the Greens were in a good position...
RE: New poll from 1News/Kantar - Magoo - 10-03-2022
interest rates going up.
inflation over 6%
petrol at record highs and rising
nothing, but nothing is as punishing to any government than a poor economy
and our economy is in tatters
RE: New poll from 1News/Kantar - Oh_hunnihunni - 10-03-2022
Slight exaggeration there.
RE: New poll from 1News/Kantar - ObeWan - 10-03-2022
The Labour PartyÔÇÖs continued success over the past two elections has been solely based on one person (remember Angry Andy?) and her popularity has taken a major hit and is still sinking.
In my opinion she needs to change tack and instead of blaming everything on Covid start telling us what she plans to do about the other major issues facing the country.
Instead of the sad face and the platitudes, give voters a plan ahead or it is only going to get worse.
I would add, this is only my opinion and I have no leanings toward any party. I vote on the issues and the policies only at the time.
RE: New poll from 1News/Kantar - harm_less - 10-03-2022
(10-03-2022, 06:44 PM)Magoo Wrote: interest rates going up.but at least the demand for houses to buy will ease if hoards of first home buyers fall over. Housing crisis eased?
inflation over 6%
petrol at record highs and rising
nothing, but nothing is as punishing to any government than a poor economy
and our economy is in tatters
RE: New poll from 1News/Kantar - Magoo - 10-03-2022
(10-03-2022, 07:27 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Slight exaggeration there.
i cannot think of anything else as uniformly damaging to a sitting government as the economy.
and nothing is as fickle and uncontrollable as the economy.
covid kudos will evaporate quickly when you cannot meet your next mortgage payment, or cant get your car fixed, so you can pay a quarter of your wage in petrol to get to your minimum wage job.
it will be covid who? 
fixed income superannuants trying to pay rates on a property that has just had its rates go up 30% after council revaluation? the skyrocketing valuation a direct result of a housing shortage that hasnt got better but actually worsened under this government, and no sign of that changing ever? no plans, no projections, no policy. praying for the reserve bank or the banking institutions or a GFC to happen
i think im understating it if anything.
money talks everything else walks, everything.
(10-03-2022, 07:42 PM)harm_less Wrote:yes, on the backs of our kids(10-03-2022, 06:44 PM)Magoo Wrote: interest rates going up.but at least the demand for houses to buy will ease if hoards of first home buyers fall over. Housing crisis eased?
inflation over 6%
petrol at record highs and rising
nothing, but nothing is as punishing to any government than a poor economy
and our economy is in tatters
as you know, at times like this i like to seek the affirmation and comfort of haiku
but for gods good grace
glad not to be destitute
that would be fucked
RE: New poll from 1News/Kantar - Olive - 10-03-2022
(10-03-2022, 08:02 PM)Magoo Wrote:(10-03-2022, 07:27 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Slight exaggeration there.....
fixed income superannuants trying to pay rates on a property that has just had its rates go up 30% after council revaluation? the skyrocketing valuation a direct result of a housing shortage that hasnt got better but actually worsened under this government, and no sign of that changing ever? no plans, no projections, no policy. praying for the reserve bank or the banking institutions or a GFC to happen
...
You're misunderstanding the way in which property rates are calculated. Each local body first decides the total amount it needs to maintain its services, then that total amount is divided among every rateable property pro rata according to the rating valuation. The only occasions on which someone's rates would increase by 30% (using your example) would be when either the total rates amount has increased by 30%, or in the unlikely situation when a property's rateable value has risen hugely compared with other properties in the same area.
RE: New poll from 1News/Kantar - Magoo - 10-03-2022
granted there are many things i do not understand.
but ive just got my rates increase notice.
gone from $4140p/a, to $5343. in my head that seems jolly close to 30%.
but then im not a mathematician either, and im too lazy to work it proply.
our house has tripled in value, mostly the land, in the last 9 years.
tauranga
we were told to expect a 10 to 13% increase in rates without re-evaluation, that was just good old fashioned paying for mismanaging the city and its environs. as far as i can see its not for funding anything new.
RE: New poll from 1News/Kantar - king1 - 10-03-2022
crap and I thought my $2600 rates bill was excessive
RE: New poll from 1News/Kantar - Oh_hunnihunni - 10-03-2022
Sheesh...
In order to pay rates these days property owners are sitting on a small fortune. They are rich.
On paper.
People who pay gas prices have cars. Lucky them.
There are people out there who have no homes, no cars, and rely on foodbanks to eat.
It really is all about perspective.
RE: New poll from 1News/Kantar - Magoo - 10-03-2022
(10-03-2022, 08:42 PM)king1 Wrote: crap and I thought my $2600 rates bill was excessivewe enjoy a large footprint. our property wasnt sub-dividable before.
it is now. thank you labour, awesome housing crisis ta.
we would never sub-divide, cos it seems like it might be a lot of jibber jabber
but will happily take the added value to the land.
and less happily the kick in the scrote that was our rates notification.
RE: New poll from 1News/Kantar - king1 - 10-03-2022
first world problems, I know...
RE: New poll from 1News/Kantar - Magoo - 10-03-2022
(10-03-2022, 08:49 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Sheesh...
In order to pay rates these days property owners are sitting on a small fortune. They are rich.
On paper.
People who pay gas prices have cars. Lucky them.
There are people out there who have no homes, no cars, and rely on foodbanks to eat.
It really is all about perspective.
there has to be two ends to every scale.
they say the gap between has widened. i dunno
i just know its gotten very crowded down the lower end lately.
should the phrase 'working poor' exist?
RE: New poll from 1News/Kantar - Wainuiguy - 10-03-2022
(10-03-2022, 06:44 PM)Magoo Wrote: interest rates going up.And a PM denying there is any cost of living crisis and looking totally out of touch with middle NZ who are struggling.
inflation over 6%
petrol at record highs and rising
nothing, but nothing is as punishing to any government than a poor economy
and our economy is in tatters
RE: New poll from 1News/Kantar - Oh_hunnihunni - 10-03-2022
The middle are struggling in the Ukraine too.
Perspective...
RE: New poll from 1News/Kantar - king1 - 10-03-2022
(10-03-2022, 09:24 PM)Wainuiguy Wrote:Have to agree, but did it not sound eerily reminiscent of John Key claiming there was no housing crisis...(10-03-2022, 06:44 PM)Magoo Wrote: interest rates going up.And a PM denying there is any cost of living crisis and looking totally out of touch with middle NZ who are struggling.
inflation over 6%
petrol at record highs and rising
nothing, but nothing is as punishing to any government than a poor economy
and our economy is in tatters
RE: New poll from 1News/Kantar - Magoo - 10-03-2022
(10-03-2022, 09:28 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: The middle are struggling in the Ukraine too.ukraines problems are ukraines problems
Perspective...
emotive deflection, eye on the ball please. 
our economy is bleak. no one wants a miracle, just that it is a concern and a comprehensive platform of remedial solutions wouldnt be too much to ask for would it? A board of directors would have to produce a suitable plan going forward to their shareholders if their business was ailing.
we are flying by the seats of our pants
good governance involves forethought beyond the next election.
i see no evidence of this, all we do is react and respond, i see no proactive solutions at all.