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RE: What will it take? - Magoo - 18-02-2022
How can they seriously arrest someone for disorderiy behavior or disturbing the peace?
How can the city enforce parking rules now?
Ok for some but not others.
RE: What will it take? - Lilith7 - 18-02-2022
Its a difficult one really - go in too heavy handed & that's going to cause problems (no one wants to see a repeat of Red squad) but doing nothing very much isn't getting them to move.
They perhaps need an incentive - a week's worth of heavy rain & strong wind might do the trick, but that's unlikely to happen.
RE: What will it take? - Oldfellah - 18-02-2022
(18-02-2022, 02:07 PM)Lilith7 Wrote: Its a difficult one really - go in too heavy handed & that's going to cause problems (no one wants to see a repeat of Red squad) but doing nothing very much isn't getting them to move.A months worth of stopping their dole and benefit might do something.
They perhaps need an incentive - a week's worth of heavy rain & strong wind might do the trick, but that's unlikely to happen.
RE: What will it take? - Olive - 18-02-2022
A measured perspective from Andrew Geddis:
https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/18-02-2022/we-know-how-to-end-the-protest-but-what-would-we-give-up-in-return
"Do we accommodate such claims as we might a swivel-eyed relative at Christmas dinner by nodding along with their off-beam demands, all in the name of a quiet life? Or, do we wait them out; ÔÇ£hold the lineÔÇØ, as those outside parliament buildings would say? And if so, who do we ask to bear the cost of that collective commitment?"
RE: What will it take? - Oh_hunnihunni - 18-02-2022
I have signed the petition.
https://www.change.org/p/freedom-groups-in-wellington-tell-the-wellington-protestors-to-go-home-they-are-not-the-majority?recruiter=1931271&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_initial&recruited_by_id=f0d42e00-e02f-012f-c9ed-404060e72abb&utm_content=fht-32352528-en-au%3A1
RE: What will it take? - Oldfellah - 19-02-2022
The secret diary of the Hermit Kingdom
MONDAY
Royal trumpets blared as the royal god made her entrance into the royal caucus. "Announcing," cried a royal brown-nose, "the Queen of the Hermit Kingdom, First of Her Name, Protector of the Realm,
Jacinda of Arc Near Morrinsville, Mother of Neve, Clarke's Missus Or Will Be When the Wedding's Back On, Minister of Secrets, Graduate of the Malignant Brotherhood of the International Union of Socialist Youth, Widely Rumoured but Unconfirmed Special Envoy of the Illuminati!"
"Morning," she said, and asked for a high horse to sit on.
They brought one in.
"Higher," she said.
They brought another one in.
"Higher still," she said.
They brought in the highest horse there ever was.
"I suppose it'll do," she said, and climbed upon it. It gave her a wonderful view of expensively maintained offices where government consultants yawned and were paid vast amounts of coin, and beyond that, she gazed upon distant fields and the kingdom's beautiful harbours; but the full beauty of the highest horse there ever was is that it prevented her from looking down upon the Ferals and Deplorables who protested on the kingdom lawns right beneath her nose.
TUESDAY
Andrew Coster, Commissioner of Police, Commander of Guards, Head of Security, Bad-Ass Mofo of Lawn Order, Widely Rumoured but Unconfirmed Special Envoy of Wokesters, sat at his desk and read through mountains of reports, memos, documents, files, data, assessments, addendums, amendments and other material concerning the Ferals and Deplorables.
And he sat, and sat, and sat, and many hours passed.
Finally, he called for his guards.
"Sir!" they bellowed. "What would you have us do?"
He squared his shoulders, narrowed his eyes, and clenched his fists. He presented as a sight of strong and terrifying authority. The guards trembled at his barely concealed rage.
"Well," he said, "any luck in getting hold of some tow trucks?"
WEDNESDAY
Pursing their lips, the Fiercely Independent and Astringently Fair Representatives of the Royal Media gazed upon the Ferals and Deplorables.
"Some seem washed, at least," wrote the kindly left.
"Most are dupes of a network of supremacists, racists, thugs and the actually insane," wrote the centre-left.
"Few are human," wrote the very left.
"None are worth our time and consideration, and we would be better off focussing on positive narratives about the work of health workers, responsible parents, civil servants, seeing-eye dogs, and others who are on the same page," wrote the actually insane left.
THURSDAY
The Ferals and Deplorables made breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
FRIDAY
"One good thing about the Ferals and Deplorables," said the Queen of the Hermit Kingdom, First of Her Name, Protector of the Realm, Jacinda of Arc [etc.], sipping upon chamomile tea in the grand hall where she held her Meeting of Like Minds, "is that they are all complete nobodies, just the lumpenproletariat, a nameless rabble, 'barely human' I think I read somewhere, and are able to be dismissed as thugs, losers, creeps, morons, crackpots, weirdos, people who no one has ever heard of. Hah!"
A messenger appeared and whispered in the ear of the Maester of the Sprinklers, Trevor Mallard.
"The smile seems to have been wiped off your puckish face, Lord False Rape Accuser," said the Queen. "What news?"
Mallard stammered, "The Ferals and Deplorables are about to be joined by Russell Coutts."
The Queen looked over the distant fields, and then on to the kingdom's beautiful harbours. A flotilla in full and very fast sail was racing towards the city.
RE: What will it take? - Lilith7 - 19-02-2022
(18-02-2022, 10:11 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: I have signed the petition.Yep, me too & shared it a few times.
https://www.change.org/p/freedom-groups-in-wellington-tell-the-wellington-protestors-to-go-home-they-are-not-the-majority?recruiter=1931271&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_initial&recruited_by_id=f0d42e00-e02f-012f-c9ed-404060e72abb&utm_content=fht-32352528-en-au%3A1
RE: What will it take? - king1 - 19-02-2022
you should publish Oldfellah, that was an entertaining read. you got more planned?
RE: What will it take? - Wainuiguy - 19-02-2022
(18-02-2022, 01:59 PM)Magoo Wrote: How can they seriously arrest someone for disorderiy behavior or disturbing the peace?The NZ Police have now all but abandoned their responsibility.  But what do you expect with that limp dick Coster as Commissioner?
How can the city enforce parking rules now?
Ok for some but not others.
RE: What will it take? - Oh_hunnihunni - 19-02-2022
(19-02-2022, 10:21 AM)king1 Wrote: you should publish Oldfellah, that was an entertaining read.  you got more planned?Needs dragons.
And Very Big Dogs.
RE: What will it take? - king1 - 19-02-2022
(19-02-2022, 10:22 AM)Wainuiguy Wrote:maybe they don't want to inflame an already tense situation.  As far as I can tell the government are quite Ok with the response.  (18-02-2022, 01:59 PM)Magoo Wrote: How can they seriously arrest someone for disorderiy behavior or disturbing the peace?The NZ Police have now all but abandoned their responsibility.  But what do you expect with that limp dick Coster as Commissioner?
How can the city enforce parking rules now?
Ok for some but not others.
This was from Poto Williams yesterday 
Quote:But she said she continued to have confidence in Police Commissioner Andrew Coster, and the police's handling of the protest.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/wellington/300521434/number-of-protesters-vehicles-in-vicinity-of-parliament-nearly-doubles-in-two-days
RE: What will it take? - Oldfellah - 19-02-2022
(19-02-2022, 10:21 AM)king1 Wrote: you should publish Oldfellah, that was an entertaining read.  you got more planned?I have to confess and I thought I had mentioned it but I shamelessly copied and pasted from the NZ Herald website, hell if my imagination was as good as that I certainly would publish, sorry to disappoint.
RE: What will it take? - Olive - 19-02-2022
(19-02-2022, 10:21 AM)king1 Wrote: you should publish Oldfellah, that was an entertaining read.  you got more planned?Copied from Steve Braunias I would say.
RE: What will it take? - king1 - 19-02-2022
(19-02-2022, 10:35 AM)Oldfellah Wrote:I'm glad you did (19-02-2022, 10:21 AM)king1 Wrote: you should publish Oldfellah, that was an entertaining read.  you got more planned?I have to confess and I thought I had mentioned it but I shamelessly copied and pasted from the NZ Herald website, hell if my imagination was as good as that I certainly would publish, sorry to disappoint.
RE: What will it take? - girlgeorgina - 19-02-2022
the canadian police have started to take action after 3 weeks.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/us-canada/300521583/covid19-canadian-police-start-arresting-protesters-in-ottawa
Quote:Trudeau on Monday invoked CanadaÔÇÖs Emergencies Act, giving law enforcement extraordinary authority to declare the blockades illegal, tow away trucks, arrest the drivers, suspend their licences and freeze their bank accounts.
The emergency act also enabled law enforcement authorities to compel tow truck companies to assist. Ottawa police said earlier that they couldnÔÇÖt find tow truck drivers willing to help because they either sympathised with the movement or feared retaliation.
RE: What will it take? - Lilith7 - 19-02-2022
(19-02-2022, 10:28 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote:And the odd cat or two wouldn't come amiss.(19-02-2022, 10:21 AM)king1 Wrote: you should publish Oldfellah, that was an entertaining read.  you got more planned?Needs dragons.
And Very Big Dogs.
RE: What will it take? - ObeWan - 19-02-2022
Look what these mongrels have done now!
Disgraceful.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/300521731/protesters-bathroom-setup-at-wellington-war-memorial-cenotaph-a-slap-in-the-face-to-veterans
RE: What will it take? - Lilith7 - 19-02-2022
It doesn't say much for the level of awareness & intelligence among protesters; they probably have no idea what it symbolises.
And if they do then that makes it far worse.
RE: What will it take? - C_T_Russell - 19-02-2022
If you want to make the protesters go away, just listen to them!
FFS, all they need to to is listen, even if the govt doesnt agree, just listen to their concerns and acknowledge them.
At least David Seymour talked to them like a civilised person.
Should be noted that there are several groups there with different agendas, but putting any crackpot beliefs aside, most of them are sharing the same anti-mandate views and thats something that should be worked on as a common interest.
Even Heather Du Plessis Allan agrees, the same person not long ago giving the unvaxxed a hard time for not taking the jab.
Pro-choice is the key here.
If there were no mandates, perhaps these people would still have a job and be at work rather than protesting outside parliament!
https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/heather-du-plessis-allan-drive/opinion/heather-du-plessis-allan-do-these-protesters-have-a-point/?fbclid=IwAR2AxDkwQl3Ksf74O3GU5Jm3qbn4EuzgSw4JxCsVP5GvGpGi5VASMXcGht4
RE: What will it take? - ObeWan - 19-02-2022
They have been advised what is required.
Do what is reasonably asked of you. Clear the illegally parked vehicles off the streets into the free parking provided by the council and then you might see more engagement.
Negotiation is a two way street, you cant have it all your own way.