(27-03-2022, 04:59 PM)Wainuiguy Wrote:

(27-03-2022, 03:48 PM)king1 Wrote: all your doing is trying to deflect the conversation away from the real issue ( Mr Luxon comment about bottom feeders for clarity - since you seem to conveniently misinterpret everything someone says). 

Who you or I or Lilith conjure up when thinking of bottom feeders is completely irrelevant.  What matters is the perception that individuals have of the comments and they are entirely personal to the individual. 

I would hazard you're only motivation of this questioning to Lilith is to deflect/attack/discredit.  Rather than holding Mr Luxon accountable for his actions...

I was genuinely curious but if she is incapable of answering and needs you to defend her....

Luxon made the comment - however Mr Campbell made the leap.  You can spin that all you like but this thread isn't about holding Luxon to account it was trying to tie Mr Cambells comment to Luxon.

(27-03-2022, 06:13 PM)Lilith7 Wrote:

(27-03-2022, 04:59 PM)Wainuiguy Wrote: I was genuinely curious but if she is incapable of answering and needs you to defend her....

Luxon made the comment - however Mr Campbell made the leap.  You can spin that all you like but this thread isn't about holding Luxon to account it was trying to tie Mr Cambells comment to Luxon.

Once again - when this term is used by politicians it generally means those on low incomes, so when I hear a politician use it, I tend to - as I said earlier - see it as yet another out of touch politician having a go at the easiest target.
And as far as I recall, I've never heard anyone other than politicians use it.

Imo all politicians should be obliged to spend 3 months over winter surviving on the lowest income with no other funding permitted, at least every two or so years. Then they'll have some understanding of the reality for many of those they want to vote for them.

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Really - yet you attempt to steer Magoo from his line of thought - interesting.

(27-03-2022, 06:17 PM)Wainuiguy Wrote:

(27-03-2022, 06:13 PM)Lilith7 Wrote: Once again - when this term is used by politicians it generally means those on low incomes, so when I hear a politician use it, I tend to - as I said earlier - see it as yet another out of touch politician having a go at the easiest target.
And as far as I recall, I've never heard anyone other than politicians use it.

Imo all politicians should be obliged to spend 3 months over winter surviving on the lowest income with no other funding permitted, at least every two or so years. Then they'll have some understanding of the reality for many of those they want to vote for them.

Three long sentences yet still can't answer my question.  When you hear the term Bottom feeder what type of people comes to mind FOR YOU?

(27-03-2022, 06:25 PM)Lilith7 Wrote:

(27-03-2022, 06:17 PM)Wainuiguy Wrote: Three long sentences yet still can't answer my question.  When you hear the term Bottom feeder what type of people comes to mind FOR YOU?

How many times do I need to spell it out before you understand?

Again, when a politician uses the term what comes to mind is another politician putting the boot into those least likely to fight back, those on low incomes.

As I said, as far as I can recall, I've not heard anyone other than a politician use the term.

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As I said, as far as I can recall, I've not heard anyone other than a politician use the term.

Lilith7
As I said, as far as I can recall, I've not heard anyone [i Wrote:other than a politician[/i] use the term.

(27-03-2022, 06:54 PM)Olive Wrote:

Lilith7
As I said, as far as I can recall, I've not heard anyone [i Wrote:other than a politician[/i] use the term.

To be fair, I've seen the expression used by respectable institutions such as Auckland City Mission and NZ Consumer Institute when describing payday lenders and other such usurers.

(27-03-2022, 07:06 PM)Wainuiguy Wrote:

(27-03-2022, 06:54 PM)Olive Wrote: To be fair, I've seen the expression used by respectable institutions such as Auckland City Mission and NZ Consumer Institute when describing payday lenders and other such usurers.

Wow and yet YOU still don't answer the question.  I didn't ask what City Mission and Consumer say they are.  Fairy obvious you are just being obtuse now - but I would expect nothing less from you.

(27-03-2022, 06:22 PM)Magoo Wrote:

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Really - yet you attempt to steer Magoo from his line of thought - interesting.

he did? hes lucky i never caught wind of his evil plot

(27-03-2022, 07:06 PM)Wainuiguy Wrote:

(27-03-2022, 06:54 PM)Olive Wrote: To be fair, I've seen the expression used by respectable institutions such as Auckland City Mission and NZ Consumer Institute when describing payday lenders and other such usurers.

Wow and yet YOU still don't answer the question.  I didn't ask what City Mission and Consumer say they are.  Fairy obvious you are just being obtuse now - but I would expect nothing less from you.

(27-03-2022, 07:19 PM)Magoo Wrote:

(27-03-2022, 07:06 PM)Wainuiguy Wrote: Wow and yet YOU still don't answer the question.  I didn't ask what City Mission and Consumer say they are.  Fairy obvious you are just being obtuse now - but I would expect nothing less from you.

youre a nasty little man arent you? keep it civil peckerwad
like you are owed a response...wtf give your balls a tug tittyfucker

(27-03-2022, 07:11 PM)king1 Wrote:

(27-03-2022, 07:06 PM)Wainuiguy Wrote: Wow and yet YOU still don't answer the question.  I didn't ask what City Mission and Consumer say they are.  Fairy obvious you are just being obtuse now - but I would expect nothing less from you.

play nicely... and remember who you are replying to

(27-03-2022, 07:27 PM)Wainuiguy Wrote:

(27-03-2022, 07:19 PM)Magoo Wrote: youre a nasty little man arent you? keep it civil peckerwad
like you are owed a response...wtf give your balls a tug tittyfucker

Lol you're funny?????

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(27-03-2022, 07:11 PM)king1 Wrote: play nicely... and remember who you are replying to

Actually was on my phone when I replied - so I thought it was Lilith - for some reason Olive keeps standing in for her.6

(28-03-2022, 10:46 AM)Lilith7 Wrote:

(27-03-2022, 07:27 PM)Wainuiguy Wrote: Lol you're funny?????

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Actually was on my phone when I replied - so I thought it was Lilith - for some reason Olive keeps standing in for her.6

My apologies - as Magoo has reminded me, the term has been used here by other posters, something I'd completely forgotten.

Such a lot of fuss about a term used to demean others.

Wainui, I see you're still using the same old tactics beloved of some - pick a tiny point & constantly bang on about it, demanding answers which, when given will then be declined as not what was meant, & continue on demanding a 'proper answer'. And if any other poster posts in support of the person being harassed, imply things about them - often that they're 'really the poster' you're having a go at.   


Refusing to take any answer given tends to mean the poster doing the harping can continue ad nauseam; it isn't a pleasant game for the person chosen to be the target so if you want to continue to play your juvenile little game - play by yourself.

(28-03-2022, 11:16 AM)Wainuiguy Wrote:

(28-03-2022, 10:46 AM)Lilith7 Wrote: My apologies - as Magoo has reminded me, the term has been used here by other posters, something I'd completely forgotten.

Such a lot of fuss about a term used to demean others.

Wainui, I see you're still using the same old tactics beloved of some - pick a tiny point & constantly bang on about it, demanding answers which, when given will then be declined as not what was meant, & continue on demanding a 'proper answer'. And if any other poster posts in support of the person being harassed, imply things about them - often that they're 'really the poster' you're having a go at.   


Refusing to take any answer given tends to mean the poster doing the harping can continue ad nauseam; it isn't a pleasant game for the person chosen to be the target so if you want to continue to play your juvenile little game - play by yourself.

So no answer then.  Typical of the little games you play Lilith.

(28-03-2022, 11:24 AM)harm_less Wrote:

(28-03-2022, 11:16 AM)Wainuiguy Wrote: So no answer then.  Typical of the little games you play Lilith.

So essentially you're confirming the strategy that Lilith is describing. Looks like she's got sick of playing with you so maybe you'd be better going away to play with yourself.

(28-03-2022, 11:24 AM)harm_less Wrote:

(28-03-2022, 11:16 AM)Wainuiguy Wrote: So no answer then.  Typical of the little games you play Lilith.

So essentially you're confirming the strategy that Lilith is describing. Looks like she's got sick of playing with you so maybe you'd be better going away to play with yourself.

(28-03-2022, 11:28 AM)Praktica Wrote:

(28-03-2022, 11:24 AM)harm_less Wrote: So essentially you're confirming the strategy that Lilith is describing. Looks like she's got sick of playing with you so maybe you'd be better going away to play with yourself.

It's called "sealioning".