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Where society is going... - Praktica - 03-08-2025

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/aug/02/self-termination-history-and-future-of-societal-collapse

RE: Where society is going... - zqwerty - 03-08-2025

My assessment as well.

RE: Where society is going... - Lilith7 - 03-08-2025

That idea of limiting wealth to $10 million makes a good deal of sense; too much money is very clearly extremely bad for humans.

There are Scandinvian countries where they have high taxes. And also, year after year, the world's happiest people.

I do think though that we also need an income floor so that no one has too little. And we have got to make big techs far more responsible, & as swiftly as possible. Because if we don't fix the mess we've made, then our children's chidren will suffer the consequences.

I listened to an interview Brian Bruce did with Chloe Swarbrick this morning unsurprisingly on similar lines about the inequality here these days & how best to fix it.

RE: Where society is going... - Oh_hunnihunni - 03-08-2025

One of the strongest of our human traits is greed. So I doubt we will ever be rid of trillionaires. Particularly now that they have discovered how to buy power and magnify their personal wealth. Beyond their circles the average ambitious person - usually male, btw - is being conditioned by the need to build personal wealth, by commercial, political, and media interests. It is no longer enough to house and feed your family, they have to provide the best, and secure retirement funding on top of that. In the process our communities and social structures are falling apart.

No wonder young men and women are turning to other ways of being...

RE: Where society is going... - Lilith7 - 03-08-2025

(03-08-2025, 01:00 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: One of the strongest of our human traits is greed. So I doubt we will ever be rid of trillionaires. Particularly now that they have discovered how to buy power and magnify their personal wealth. Beyond their circles the average ambitious person - usually male, btw - is being conditioned by the need to build personal wealth, by commercial, political, and media interests. It is no longer enough to house and feed your family, they have to provide the best, and secure retirement funding on top of that. In the process our communities and social structures are falling apart.

No wonder young men and women are turning to other ways of being...

Hmmm...back to the communes...

I think we really have to try to somehow encourage the best of human nature rather than the worst. Teaching empathy in schools would be a good start

 No one needs trillions & I suspect that having far too much is also extremely bad for humans, so we need to change that somehow.

RE: Where society is going... - king1 - 03-08-2025

we would be removing a significant chunk of the innovation and progress going down that path - think of what would not exist without the space race. Some of it is good...

RE: Where society is going... - Oh_hunnihunni - 03-08-2025

Oh there's no stopping it now... I just hope we innovate our way out of the consequences of our greed. Because it is coming, and along with the poor on low lying islands, some of those glorious clifftop mansions are right in the target zone...

RE: Where society is going... - Lilith7 - 03-08-2025

(03-08-2025, 04:02 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Oh there's no stopping it now... I just hope we innovate our way out of the consequences of our greed. Because it is coming, and along with the poor on low lying islands, some of those glorious clifftop mansions are right in the target zone...

I'd like to think we can, if only for the sake of our descendants.

RE: Where society is going... - heisenberg - 07-08-2025

(03-08-2025, 12:42 PM)Lilith7 Wrote: I listened to an interview Brian Bruce did  with Chloe Swarbrick this morning unsurprisingly on similar lines about the inequality here these days & how best to fix it.

chloe swarbrick eh

Enough said

RE: Where society is going... - Oh_hunnihunni - 07-08-2025

Indeed.

RE: Where society is going... - heisenberg - 07-08-2025

(07-08-2025, 10:35 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Indeed.

id take my dogs advice on fixing the country before hers

RE: Where society is going... - harm_less - 07-08-2025

(07-08-2025, 10:42 AM)heisenberg Wrote:
(07-08-2025, 10:35 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Indeed.

id take my dogs advice on fixing the country before hers
That says a lot about how discerning your choice of information is. Does your dog also have a FB account?

RE: Where society is going... - Praktica - 07-08-2025

(07-08-2025, 10:45 AM)harm_less Wrote:
(07-08-2025, 10:42 AM)heisenberg Wrote: id take my dogs advice on fixing the country before hers
That says a lot about how discerning your choice of information is. Does your dog also have a FB account?

On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog.

RE: Where society is going... - amrist - 07-08-2025

Swarbrick is "our" MP.

One of the previous Greenies moved to a waterfront property asap, once an MP. Another AK Council member bought a house on Great Barrier asap, once 'In'.

"You have got to clean your own house first before you tell other people that they arenÔÇÖt doing it right"

.... so why not shop for a new house before settling into the job? Do it for the peeps.


Almost time to vote for another one soon, oh joy.

RE: Where society is going... - Oh_hunnihunni - 07-08-2025

(07-08-2025, 10:42 AM)heisenberg Wrote:
(07-08-2025, 10:35 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Indeed.

id take my dogs advice on fixing the country before hers

It must be very comforting to have a dog whose advice you can rely on.  Big Grin
(07-08-2025, 11:04 AM)amrist Wrote: Swarbrick is "our" MP.

One of the previous Greenies moved to a waterfront property asap, once an MP. Another AK Council member bought a house on Great Barrier asap, once 'In'.

"You have got to clean your own house first before you tell other people that they arenÔÇÖt doing it right"

.... so why not shop for a new house before settling into the job? Do it for the peeps.


Almost time to vote for another one soon, oh joy.

I would challenge anyone to find an MP who works harder for her constituents. I think she will be PM one day.

RE: Where society is going... - heisenberg - 07-08-2025

(07-08-2025, 11:22 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote:
(07-08-2025, 10:42 AM)heisenberg Wrote: id take my dogs advice on fixing the country before hers

It must be very comforting to have a dog whose advice you can rely on.  Big Grin

I would challenge anyone to find an MP who works harder for her constituents. I think she will be PM one day.

i bet that fills the labour fans on here with dread, if they were honest

if that were to happen NZ would be fekked

RE: Where society is going... - Lilith7 - 07-08-2025

(07-08-2025, 10:45 AM)harm_less Wrote:
(07-08-2025, 10:42 AM)heisenberg Wrote: id take my dogs advice on fixing the country before hers
That says a lot about how discerning your choice of information is. Does your dog also have a FB account?

I may be wrong but I'm fairly sure they have a no Chihuahua policy.... Rolleyes Big Grin Big Grin
(07-08-2025, 11:22 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote:
(07-08-2025, 10:42 AM)heisenberg Wrote: id take my dogs advice on fixing the country before hers

It must be very comforting to have a dog whose advice you can rely on.  Big Grin
(07-08-2025, 11:04 AM)amrist Wrote: Swarbrick is "our" MP.

One of the previous Greenies moved to a waterfront property asap, once an MP. Another AK Council member bought a house on Great Barrier asap, once 'In'.

"You have got to clean your own house first before you tell other people that they arenÔÇÖt doing it right"

.... so why not shop for a new house before settling into the job? Do it for the peeps.


Almost time to vote for another one soon, oh joy.

I would challenge anyone to find an MP who works harder for her constituents. I think she will be PM one day.

With any sort of luck. And given this lot - the sooner, the better.

RE: Where society is going... - heisenberg - 07-08-2025

(07-08-2025, 12:02 PM)Lilith7 Wrote: I may be wrong but I'm fairly sure they have a no Chihuahua policy.... Rolleyes Big Grin Big Grin

i have a pitty, i got him one of those studded collars , i walk around scaring old ladies with him

RE: Where society is going... - Lilith7 - 07-08-2025

(07-08-2025, 03:23 PM)heisenberg Wrote:
(07-08-2025, 12:02 PM)Lilith7 Wrote: I may be wrong but I'm fairly sure they have a no Chihuahua policy.... Rolleyes Big Grin Big Grin

i have a pitty, i got him one of those studded collars , i walk around scaring old ladies with him

Pitty's are lovely... Smile

RE: Where society is going... - heisenberg - 07-08-2025

(07-08-2025, 03:36 PM)Lilith7 Wrote:
(07-08-2025, 03:23 PM)heisenberg Wrote: i have a pitty, i got him one of those studded collars , i walk around scaring old ladies with him

Pitty's are lovely... Smile

not mine heÔÇÖs a prick